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[BUSINESS] Do you have the killer instinct?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Cohete Rojo, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Member

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    The way things are vs. the way you think it should be.

    Today some coworkers and I were discussing our company's future concerning current business activities, and what the competition may be doing. We made some remarks about how and where our company should go fom here. We talked about how those moves would affect our company's competition.

    Needless to say, one of the coworkers took offense at how myself and others were speaking. We came to the conclusion that this one coworker just does not have that killer instinct. It's all about survival, right?
     
  2. droxford

    droxford Member

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    I think there's a difference between a "killer instinct" and a business mindset.

    It's important to establish and follow business ethics and obey the law. But it's also important to understand that business is business and successful businesses aren't built on compassion for competitors.
     
  3. Xsatyr

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    Killer instinct does mean you do not follow ethics.
     
  4. QdoubleA

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    LOL WUT?...well nvm, if that's what your definition of killer instinct is. I don't equate killer instinct with breaking rules though.
     
  5. RedRedemption

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    Tossing business ethics aside doesn't necessarily mean breaking rules.

    "Its not illegal, its frowned upon."
     
  6. K LoLo

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    I can't tell from your brief description. But no, I would not say it is ALWAYS about survival.
     
  7. Xsatyr

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    So then you agree with me...
     
  8. Fyreball

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    Absolutely 100% false. Ethics and integrity should never be compromised when doing business. It will always come back to haunt you.
     
  9. Xsatyr

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    Since when does killer instinct imply you have to compromise anything?
     
  10. Xsatyr

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    Oh typo... It was suppose to say does NOT mean...
     
  11. bullardfan

    bullardfan なんでやねん

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    business ethics? you steal and make a buttload of money then use a fraction of the money to pay out ur lawsuits and/or settlements. money trumps everything.
     
  12. Jontro

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    I don't have that killer instinct. Honestly I'm not the entrepreneurial type.
     
  13. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    You can build that killer instict business which puts ethics in the background, but then you will go down the drain with every other similar business when the financial crisis comes along. No, you won't go down either way.

    Reason being, everyone has that killer instinct. But when there are fewer and fewer people who want your product, they will look for the people who offer both killer instinct and ethics. 2007-2011 is a real life example of that. I've seen companieS who have survived this crisis for this very reason.

    Besides, you probably need to get rid of the guy who is a replica of you and keep the guy who challenges you and keeps you on your toes. That's killer instinct. It's easy to get rid of everyone who's different.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    Explain 2007-2011 more please.
    Cause it seems to me . .. when it gets down to fewer and fewer
    the MOST ruthless survive. . . .

    The Enron's of the world did not die because of their killer instinct
    but
    because of their stupidity and arrogance.

    Rocket River
     
  15. QdoubleA

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    Nope. I agree that your definition of killer instinct can be whatever you want. To me, killer instinct is the drive/motivation to be the absolute best at whatever it is you do. It has nothing to do with not following ethics, in fact if you have to cheat, break rules, not follow ethics, whatever you don't think you can beat the other guy straight up i.e. don't have killer instinct, you're just conniving.
     
  16. Xsatyr

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    My original post was suppose to say killer instinct is not about being unethical. Ethics does not decide if one has a killer instinct. So I def disagree with your last sentence.
     
  17. Bleeding Red

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    **** yeah, going for the jugular. turkeys don't cook themselves
     
  18. Dubious

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    If you achieve success by being a dick, your guilt won't let you enjoy it. You'll stress out into some self destructive behavior, punish yourself through a bad relationship with someone you should love or get physically ill.

    It's mastery of the skill that gives the positive ego feedback and that's what you want. That and being able to adequately provide for you family through your efforts.
     
  19. jo mama

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    exactly - someone in my company got ahold of one of our competitors reports and wanted to incorporate it into our own database - their rationale was that since it would be difficult for them to prove that we did steal their data it wasnt a big deal - i had an ethical/moral problem w/ this and refused to do it. if that means i dont have the "killer instinct", so be it - id rather be an honest person w/ my integrity intact.

    it caused alot of tension b/t me and the other person, but since i control the database they couldnt do anything about it. eventually they realized that i wasnt going to budge and let it go.

    and if our competitor our one of our clients ever found out it would destroy our reputation - plus, there is the whole 'do unto others' thing - if our competitor did that to us we would sue them or at least go beat the s*** out of the person responsible.

    the OP sounds like they were just talking strategy - how to go after your competition. there is nothing at all wrong w/ that - honest competition is what its all about. infact, if you are not considering what the other guy is doing you are a fool.

    a conniving p***y who isnt man enough to stand toe to toe on their own merits.
     
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  20. sbyang

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    People with killer instinct will also screw over whoever or whatever is in their way to get ahead. That means they'll make decisions best for themselves and not the company moving forward.

    OP should be happy he works with ethical people. They won't see it when OP stabs them in the back on his way up.
     

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