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Why I Remain Optimistic

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by emjohn, Nov 15, 2011.

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Are we going to get past Schaub's injury?

  1. Hell Yes!

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  2. Hell No!

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  3. I've been drinking too much and can no longer read

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  1. v3.0

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    Ok, didn't know that. The Texans did lose their starting QB right?
     
  2. emjohn

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    They lost Mathis, their best CB.

    Landry (FS) and Lowery (SS) are their safeties - Landry should be over the top help on Johnson all day.

    Andre may not have a field day even with Mathis out....but it definitely opens up the deep ball opposite him (and Landry) if Lowery comes forward to help in the box.

    This is how he makes OD, Walter, and Jones look 10x better when he's on the field.
     
  3. conquistador#11

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    if i remember correctly, sanchez and the new matty have similar stats in their first seventeen games.
    i'm going to have to believe kubiak and the older matty when they say the new kid has been preparing all this time.
    So... considering that under kubiak, turnover proned qbs like plummer and griese have been able to play well, I say he will be better than Sanchez. Right? he has too.:p
    The battlefight must carry on.
     
  4. DonkeyMagic

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    if he's not better than Sanchez the texans are in trouble. But I agree, his time under Kubiak must have helped.
     
  5. meh

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    I would personally take Mark Sanchez clone right now for Leinart. I don't know why you'd expect more. Sanchez sucks. But if he was my team's backup QB I wouldn't be all that unhappy. And Leinart is a backup QB.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    So, who is the next key Texan player to be out for season with a serious injury?
     
  7. htownrox1

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    The only thing that sucks is that we now have to wait 10 more days to see what happens. Ugh waiting sucks.
     
  8. Rashmon

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    Apologies if this has been posted, but here is a Q&A with Dorin Dickerson I thought was pretty enlightening...

    Unless you’ve been asleep since Sunday, you’ve probably heard that the Houston Texans have lost their starting quarterback for the season.
    ...
    Dorin was gracious enough to allow me a phone interview on the differences of the two Houston Texans’ quarterbacks. He also threw in a couple interesting tidbits about former college teammates, Jonathan Baldwin and Tyler Palko who will start on Monday night in place of the injured Matt Cassel.
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    Jayson Braddock: You were with the Texans when Matt Leinart came over in 2010 and stayed with them through preseason of 2011. How did Leinart progress in that time?

    Dorin Dickerson: Well, as you know we didn’t get a lot of work over the summer due to the lockout and after we were able to start practicing he had to remain out for a little while longer due to resigning with the team. In the time I was there you definitely could tell a little change. He progressed. All of the coaches love him, the players too.

    JB: You’ve taken reps from Matt Schaub and Matt Leinart. How big is the falloff and some of the issues they’ll face with Leinart?

    DD: A lot closer than what people think. They’re the same style just different hands. That’s going to be the biggest issue. It’s hard to adjust to a lefty. A lot harder to catch his ball, the way the ball spins and tails off. They’ll also have to flip the way they run bootlegs. It was the same way for me catching my former teammate, Tyler Palko’s ball. But, they have one of the best receivers in the game in Dre and he’ll adjust.
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    JB: Getting back to Leinart, what limitations do you see him having in this Texans’ offense that Schaub didn’t?

    DD: Just experience in the offense. He’s only been there a little over a year now. I haven’t been around him for months but when I was there he still hadn’t fully grasped the offense. It’s not a knock on him, it’s just that Schaub’s had five years in the offense and Leinart has only had about a year.
    JB: With those limitations in mind, what do you see Matt Leinart’s record being over the last six games of the season? They’ll face the Jaguars, Falcons, Bengals, Panthers, Colts, and Titans.

    DD: Probably 3-3. The Jags could surprise him in that first game as he gets his legs under him. The Falcons and Bengals are both playing well and the Titans are a rival. Really it’s the mental side of the game for Leinart. I think he’ll get it. In my heart I think he can lead the Texans deep in the playoffs.
    JB: Well, going off of that, where do you see the Texans ending in the playoffs?

    DD: I can see them going to the second round.

    JB: Let’s look at some attributes. Between Schaub and Leinart who is more mobile, stronger arm, better accuracy, and handling pressure?

    DD: Schaub has the stronger arm. Leinart will tend to put more touch on passes. I would definitely say that Leinart is more mobile. He gets out and runs the bootleg perfectly. I would also give the edge on accuracy to Schaub. Leinart has seen enough time so Schaub would handle the pressure situations better.

    JB: All of the Texans’ players are coming out and saying that Matt Schaub was the team leader. Is this the team saying the right thing or was Schaub really a leader of the offense?

    DD: That’s one of the things I really liked about that Texans team. They were all leaders. They led collectively. No one guy was really a leader and the whole team looked to them. At any time any player may step up and that’s the way it should be. It could be Dre one play, then Arian, then Wade. I didn’t get the sense that it was any one person that the offense looked towards.

    JB: How is Leinart viewed in the Texans’ locker room? Do they feel he’s a capable leader or are they just saying the right thing and fear him leading this offense?

    DD: They have no choice but to believe in him. It’s not that they doubt him but, they have no choice but believe in him. They used a draft pick on TJ Yates and if Leinart struggles they may go to him but Leinart’s the guy they thought highly enough of. They wanted him to re-sign. People forget that he was a top pick in the draft. He’s played well and it’s more mental than anything with him. He’s great in that offense. It’s not like they’re going to ask him to do too much. They have one of the best running backs in Arian Foster. They have Andre and Owen. He just has to make the plays. People will be surprised.

    JB: There were rumors that someone didn’t want you in Houston and that you were never given a fair shot. Do you feel you were cheated here and do you hold any grudges?

    DD: No no, I don’t have any hard feelings. That locker room is filled with some really great guys and the Texans are a great organization. I’m appreciative of my time there. I’m sure everyone has a story about how they felt that someone didn’t want them, whether it was the GM, a coach, or whatever. At the end of the day I just didn’t make enough plays and that’s on me. They drafted me and gave me an opportunity. They wanted me to learn another position and switch to wide receiver and it didn’t work out for them. I didn’t make enough plays. Now my job is to get better and make them pay for letting me go. I’ll use it as fuel to keeping getting better. I’ve learned from it and I appreciate all of the coaches and teammates.
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    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/spor...ysis-how-do-teammates-feel-about-matt-leinart
     
  9. david_rocket

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    Havent read all the thread, but I was thinking about this, and we can compare the texans with Leinart with San Francisco, so if he can play like Alex Smith during this season that would be good enough.

    Bad QB - Alex Smith/Leinart
    Great RB: Gore/Foster (with Foster been better)
    Great DEF: Both are in the top 5 this year.
    Great TE: Davis/Daniels (In this one SF has an advantage)
    WRs: Crabtree/Edwards? /AJ80, much better
    I dont know much about the O-Line in SF, but I think its good

    And they have now 8-1 playing against Detroit, Giants, Eagles, and Cowboys.

    So I dont think its that bad, we just need Leinart to be like Alex Smith of this season (not having a lot of turnovers, managing the game, etc.)

    So thats why I remain optimistic.
     
  10. CCorn

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    I remain optimistic because I just watched Tebow beat the Jets
     
  11. meh

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    This might be the funniest thing I've read on this whole thing. Seriously, how does a QB with lesser arm than Schaub get hyped for the #1 overall pick?
     
  12. emjohn

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    Being fair...you also just saw an overhyped USC QB cough up the game because he's a mental midget.
     
  13. DonkeyMagic

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    because he was the QB on a national title game? How did Jamarcus Russell get drafted #1?

    Leinart never had that big cannon arm. That was one of his biggest criticisms coming out.

    Based on watching them play, I would say there isn't much difference in Schaub and Leinart's arm strength. After hearing a guy who caught passes from them for an entire season say that one has a stronger arm then I'm inclined to give some validity to his opinion.
     
  14. couple of d's

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    How in the world did Mark Sanchez lead the Jets to 2 AFC title games.? That dude is turribble. I think I would rather have Leinart than him.
     
  15. Uprising

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    Well, still damn depressed.

    Been avoiding these threads. Just the thought makes me want to puke (no Schaub).

    But, I'm optimistic. Lets see what this kid has, he's had these years under Kubiak. And thank god, a week to get his **** together.

    Let's go Texans! 11-5
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Look, he might even be better, maybe we have our own Tom Brady sitting on the bench.

    DD
     
  17. couple of d's

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    He can't be any worse than David Carr or Sage Helicopter. I bet he does better than most people think.
     

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