I understand. I'm not a smoker (minus every once in awhile when drinking). I just think childhood obesity is more of a problem than smoking. Then again, this is a thread on smoking.
In europe under every Smoke company, they have a large label that takes up half the space that says "smoking kills". Of course this wouldn't get approved in America with the heavy lobbying go on. that said, should it be illegal? no, I think people can choose to do it, btu that said when something you do affects people around you, then it hsould be barred in most public places or at least there should be certain smoking spots for them to go in that doesn't intrude on others space. I personally don't like the smell and don't feel comfortable breathing in 2nd hand smoking. I think of all the 3(alcohol, tabacco, mar1juana), Alcohol is the most dangerous and immediate threat when someone drinks too much and it has long term effects. Tabacco is 2nd with its 2nd hand effects and the obvious deterioration in lungs etc that have been proven time and time again. mar1juana(vapor or in other forms) is also dangerous and influences your mind, yet seems to have the least casualties from the above 3, ironically this is the one that is strictly illegal. this is coming fro ma non smoker
Come now BJ... If you're not a thin, non-smoker like the rest of America then you are obviously a dumbass. This thread is full of idiots. I'm out.
This +1. I was always extremely sensitive to smoke as a kid which sucked because they didn't have any of the regulations in place that they do now. Even older, unless I'm confined in a place with smoking (bar) and get use to the smell, being exposed to smoke after breathing in fresh air still makes me cough. Besides, if people are "fake coughing" it usually means it's bothering them, but they are trying to be polite in giving the smoker the hint to go somewhere else.
I'm a cheapskate by nature and only want addictions that won't cost much; so pr0n addiction yes, smoking no. And for all you smokers, please put a plastic bag over your heads while smoking in public, please end 2nd hand smoke and shorten your lives even more, thank u. PS. I hate you City of Stafford.
This really nails it, and everyone who pointed out the double-standard of not smoking and doing tons of other things unhealthy has the right idea. It's our society- we're all about stuffing unhealthy crap into our face-holes. Time to learn about the finer things in life, like video games.
There is a big difference, when someone is stuffing their face with donuts or whatever else, it is not Directly affecting someone else. When someone is smoking, from the 2nd hand, the unpleasant smell, it is affecting someone else directly who may not like it. I don't care if it is unhealthy or not for hte person. I don't care if people quit smoking. I just think they should do whatever their private choices are in places where they don't affect or impose on others. so find a private somking area and then smoke all you want, that is not the issue about who what smokes and we think of them, it is taht when people are smoking out and about that it affects others. it is that simple on why this is more of a topic than drinking or whatever else eating in public
Have some of you guys been to a few 3rd world countries? You would not survive without going insane. There is not a single place safe from 2nd hand smoke outside of religious buildings. and then there's pollution. but that's for another thread
That's true and a good point. But most (modern/younger) smokers have made a conscious decision, at some point, to be rude and disrespectful of others on a level based on this, not to mention the billions of cigarette butts they throw out of their car windows on a daily basis. It's a purely irresponsible and selfish thing to start smoking these days. It should be noted that people who are stuffing their faces with other forms of unhealthy stuff ARE directly affecting everyone by driving up health care costs.
and yet, when we talk about FDA putting healthier foods in school system(tax payer funded school systems), the right seems to be screaming about freedom of choice. Palin comes with cookies and talks about is it our job or the govt's jobs? Hell half the things I ate that I thought were healthy aren't healthy just bc of marketing and lack of simple information available. Cereals that are heart certified(the heart certifying agency is often owned by the cereal parent company!). Just small things that I really had no idea what I am putting into my body and many people do not. The companies get away with so much and are so clever with labels etc, we need a govt agency to overlook it quite simply because we can't let the market(us) sway things that we can't tell one from the other. And over the years they have proven how they can market something unhealthy as healthy, etc. Its a different topic I guess, but sorry for my rant. I am independent, I won't always vote for the right or the left. My economic views are generally more conservative, and I have some liberal social views more along the rights of the people. I pick and choose rather tan having to go all the way or the other. But I have been so disappointing about how cunning and maliscious the right have become openly and how misinformed some of the members have been. The Dems are not honest(disappointing obama) as well, but they don't use the low dirty tactics that the right does. in the end that is why I really appreciate Ron Paul and Huntsman, not two people I agree on with everything, but two people that I can at least trust to be hoenst and straight forward and that is sad that it is what I am coming to look for nowadays. Ha, explanation for the above ranting: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/victoria-jackson-politichicks-web-show_n_1097796.html I just went through her youtube videos and I know she doesnt represent everyone in the teaparty or right, but still pretty disturbing how ignorant these people are. Gothrough her occupy wall street videos, she seems delusional that she is telling some of them off when the the opposite is the case
I have no problem with people who smoke. Over half my friends smoke. I've shared a cigarette a few times outside at Fitzgerald's. Sometimes there's something special about bonding over a cigarette. It's sexy. People who chain smoke like chimneys or want to smoke in my apartment: No. Stinky is not sexy. Being around cigarettes indoors gives me awful sinus pain. Having the taste of them on my clothes, hair and mouth is NOT pleasant. Bottom line, I'll smoke a cigarette after not doing it a few months, but then I'm good for a few more months.
I don't like people telling me what I can or can't ingest. People who hold those sort of opinions are violating me. Therefore, if you hold that opinion, you are my enemy and I will hurt you. To quote a wise man, "Hey, hey hey, smoke weed everyday."
I don't presently own leather furniture but I do still wear leather shoes. How do I reconcile that? I don't. I'm a hypocrite. Just like everyone else. My point was not that I was holier than thou; it was that anti-smokers aren't either. This issue is just r****ded anymore. I quit smoking and the smell bothers me too now. But smoking has been banned from everywhere except outside and there are restrictions even there. And now we have someone here saying people shouldn't smoke on sidewalks. This is crazytown. If Congress wants to outlaw tobacco altogether, I'd be fine with that. Alcohol too. Both are more harmful and more dangerous (to the user and to countless others) than mar1juana or various other illegal substances. But the anti-smoker rhetoric is just really very stupid. They've been kicked out of bars (those bastions of health), restaurants, hotels, concerts and pretty much everywhere else. But it's still not good enough. In NYC for a time there was a movement to ban smoking in one's own apartment because the smell of cigarettes wafted from under the front door. Anti-smokers are ****ing idiots. They got what they wanted. It will never be good enough.
