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How historic is Aaron Rodgers' season?

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by t_mac1, Nov 9, 2011.

  1. moestavern19

    moestavern19 Member

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    Who beats them?
     
  2. Lil Pun

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    That's one thing I am not sure of. Let's be honest, they've had a pretty weak schedule so far. You could pencil in 3 good teams (New Orleans, Atlanta, Chicago) maybe out of the 9 they have played but besides that, their schedule has been crap. I'm not trying to take anything away from what they've done because they have beaten who they are matched up against but I believe they'll end up slipping at the wrong time.
     
  3. rhadamanthus

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    The only team that I think has a chance is New England. And I loathe the Patriots.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Benefiting from Rules Changes


    The year Manning broke the touchdown record which was broken by Brady, the previous year cry baby manning complained about a playoff game in foxborough when his receviers were absolutely destroyed. the rules were changed the very next year and peyton broke the record.

    DON'T TELL ME JACK ABOUT RULES CHANGES


    the confirming article
     
  5. Obito

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    I think the Giants may be able to knock off the Packers.. Just because Eli has done crazier and I hate Eli.

    Only if the Eagles lived up to their hype.
     
  6. Like A Breath

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    Rodgers is a ninja cyborg sent from the future who decides to play football as a hobby.
     
  7. A_3PO

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    Agree with you. The Giants pass rush and a hot Eli Manning can beat the Packers in the playoffs. But the Giants have to get there first.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    The packers aren't actually "that" great of a team. Their defense isn't even average right now statistically, and they have a mediocre run game. This is all b/c of Rodgers.

    Therefore, if he has an off-night, the team is very susceptible to a loss.
     
  9. Joe Joe

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    His off night is still better than anyone else in the league on average.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    Yeah, Manning and Brady hav benefitted plenty from the passing friendly rules changes.
     
  11. Obito

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    Yeah his off night would be like 2tds 1ints. He's just that good.

    Its luck also, the league isn't too good this year. No Peyton, Eagles are playing way under their talent, so are the Chargers (like always). Patriots are somewhat inconsistent, so is Bmore and Atlanta. Pittsburgh's winning ugly. The 9ers are playing great football but I refuse to believe that Alex Smith can out shoot Rodgers. The better teams have a lot of exposed flaws (Detroit, Chicago, Buffalo, Cincy). The Jets are finally showing their true colors. Texans are getting demolished by injuries. That leaves New Orleans, NYG and Dallas. If Eli, Romo or Brees protect the ball and get hot, I believe they can beat beat the Pack. Especially the Giants since they're the only one from that group with a proven pass rush.
     
  12. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    any given sunday dude. signed, 2007 ny giants.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    LOL, it's football. And it's one game. Anybody can beat anybody in one game.
     
  14. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    This. The 2007 Patriots where much better than this year's Packers.
     
  15. Obito

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    Yep, that years Packers were very good also and the Giants beat them in Green Bay.
     
  16. moestavern19

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    No ****stains, Sherlock Hemlock. ;)

    I was just wondering who he thought was going to beat them.



    In regard to the rule changes... the NFL will always change rules to benefit more scoring.

    Check QB Passer Ratings Pre 1977 to understand what it was like for receivers going up against coverage that was allowed to initiate contact at any time. There was no bigger rule change in NFL history than the implementation of the illegal contact 5 yard window. Before then, you just had to have receivers like Lynn Swann, Lance Allworth, Paul Warfield, etc who could make plays deep down the field.

    Check Passer Ratings over the past 10 years to understand what lengths the NFL has gone to to protect QBs and open up the passing game.

    Want more proof that the NFL is tailor-made for QB success?

    Lets Check the trends...

    • NFL ALL-TIME CAREER PASSER RATING LEADERS


    • [​IMG]


    Tony Romo gets a lot of flak for making boneheaded plays and yet he is the 3rd highest rated QB of all time.

    Jason Campbell is the very definition of pedestrian QB and his career QB rating puts him 29th all time. Troy Aikman won 3 Super Bowls and he is 41st. John Elway? 57th. Terry Bradshaw? 124th.

    Out of the Top 30 QBs... Only 5 of them did not play the majority of their careers in the 2000s. Young, Montana, Marino, Kelly, Staubach. All Hall of Famers.
     
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    Or you can use the eye test.
     
  18. moestavern19

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    You can also point to yardage totals.

    10 of 15 top yardage seasons have occurred within the past decade.

    Keep in mind that the NFL switched to a 16 game season in 1978.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. justtxyank

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    I disagree with this. The mobility of Aaron Rodgers is a weapon the Patriots never had and it changes everything.

    Rodgers is Steve Young with a cannon arm.

    Also, the 2007 Patriots lost in the Superbowl largely because an injury to Brady made it to where he couldn't move at all in the pocket.
     
  20. moestavern19

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    Also - To compensate for the difference in 14 game and 16 game schedules... I checked Career Passing Yards Per Game stats.

    NFL Single-Season Passing Yards per Game Leaders
    • Rank Player (age), + - HOFer, Bold - Active Y/G Year Teams
    • 1. Tom Brady (34) 336.9 2011 NWE
    • 2. Drew Brees (32) 332.6 2011 NOR
    • 3. Dan Fouts+ (31) 320.3 1982 SDG
    • 4. Aaron Rodgers (28) 318.8 2011 GNB
    • 5. Dan Marino+ (23) 317.8 1984 MIA
    • 6. Drew Brees (29) 316.8 2008 NOR
    • 7. Warren Moon+ (34) 312.6 1990 HOU
    • 8. Kurt Warner (29) 311.7 2000 STL
    • 9. Philip Rivers (30) 304.8 2011 SDG
    • 10. Kurt Warner (30) 301.9 2001 STL
    • 11. Tom Brady (30) 300.4 2007 NWE
    • 12. Dan Fouts+ (30) 300.1 1981 SDG
    • 13. Eli Manning (30) 298.7 2011 NYG
    • 14. Matt Schaub (28) 298.1 2009 HOU
    • 15. Dan Fouts+ (32) 297.5 1983 SDG
    • 16. Dan Marino+ (25) 296.6 1986 MIA
    • 17. Daunte Culpepper (27) 294.8 2004 MIN
    • 18. Dan Fouts+ (29) 294.7 1980 SDG
    • 19. Philip Rivers (29) 294.4 2010 SDG
    • 20. Peyton Manning (34) 293.8 2010 IND
    • 21. Warren Moon+ (35) 293.1 1991 HOU
    • Rich Gannon (37) 293.1 2002 OAK
    • 23. Drew Brees (30) 292.5 2009 NOR
    • 24. Steve Young+ (34) 290.9 1995 SFO
    • 25. Joe Montana+ (26) 290.3 1982 SFO
    • 26. Cam Newton (22) 289.4 2011 CAR
    • 27. Drew Brees (31) 288.8 2010 NOR
    • 28. Ben Roethlisberger (27) 288.5 2009 PIT
    • 29. Neil Lomax (25) 288.4 1984 STL
    • 30. Ben Roethlisberger (29) 287.7 2011 PIT
    • Dan Fouts+ (33) 287.7 1984 SDG
    • 32. Marc Bulger (28) 287.1 2005 STL
    • 33. Trent Green (34) 286.9 2004 KAN
    • 34. Kurt Warner (37) 286.4 2008 ARI
    • 35. Joe Namath+ (24) 286.2 1967 NYJ
    • 36. Peyton Manning (28) 284.8 2004 IND
    • 37. Drew Bledsoe (22) 284.7 1994 NWE
    • 38. Warren Moon+ (38) 284.3 1994 MIN
    • 39. Marc Bulger (27) 283.1 2004 STL
    • 40. Jay Cutler (25) 282.9 2008 DEN
    • 41. Neil Lomax (28) 282.3 1987 STL
    • 42. Peyton Manning (33) 281.3 2009 IND
    • 43. Kyle Orton (28) 281.0 2010 DEN
    • 44. Tony Romo (29) 280.2 2009 DAL
    • 45. Joe Montana+ (30) 279.5 1986 SFO
    • 46. Tommy Kramer (26) 279.4 1981 MIN
    • 47. Tony Romo (31) 278.7 2011 DAL
    • Matthew Stafford (23) 278.7 2011 DET
    • 49. Lynn Dickey (34) 278.6 1983 GNB
    • Donovan McNabb (29)

    Namath in 67 is the only QB on the list Pre-1978.
     

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