I don't really understand why sleeping there is such a big deal. I've been highly critical of their geographic selection to begin with...but who cares if they're there at 4 am when it's just a few reporters and crazy folks? Why not just go down and occupy it during daylight hours, every single day? That's what the mothers of the plaza de mayo have been doing for years in Buenos Aires and they're pretty respected/have been pretty successful.
I'd jam the sidewalks on Wall Street proper from 5 AM -10 AM and then from 4PM -8PM. Stack it like sardines in the public right of way. Basso don't get up to the 82nd floor. Better yet he doesn't make dinner. Everyday!, well, M-Th and 1/2 day Fr. Don't miss the history, man. There will always be another work of day, for the next 50 years. (chicks, pot, police...you can't miss that) (are you even young and alive?)
why would you do that? Nobody important physically works on Wall street. I guess Deutsche Bank is still there and parts of AIG but that's pretty much it. Many of the old investment houses & banks have been converted to cheesy condos; and the smelly chainsmokers in smocks on the floors of the exchanges are mostly there just for show. The computers that do the actual trading don't care. (and aren't even there anyway). It's mostly tourists during the day to tell you the truth. Basso hasn't been down there in decades, in fact I doubt he ever gets below Times Square other than the occasional Republicans Club meetings at Bubba Gump Shrimp Co.
It occurs to me that we should all be very worried when assembly and protest are being limited while corporate money is being protected.
Well, shows what I know about New York. Haven't been there since 1972. How about an Anonymous DOS on some of those trading systems? NO S***T?
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-favor-fading.html I didn't bother to look at the polling sample.
ride my bike down there all the time, and i'm probably down in BPC once a week (other side of the highway, true), but the world financial center is there. and my attorney's office was right by zuccotti park until ~ 6 months ago.
Dubious: Yeah, it's hardly a novel or new fear - the culling of free speech and the rise of corporate control has been well documented and, to a certain extent, protested. However, it seems like we've reached a summit of sorts. Actual in-the-streets protest is happening one year after the Supreme Courts officially sells out the citizenry to corporate interests - the juxtaposition is illuminating. And whereas the USSC decision got minimal media feedback and, arguably, a whitewashing - OWS has been simultaneously attacked, marginalized, and censored by the MSM. I would wager that Howard Zinn would see this as a continuation of the same struggle that has defined America from it's creation (and it is, no doubt) - but it seems for more institutionalized now.
The American Middle Class, even the very concept of a Middle Class, is at risk of becoming a footnote in history. OWS is not the end of this, it wasn't even the beginning, it's just the next step in an ongoing struggle to maintain a voice for working class Americans.
Apparently you didn't read PPP's analysis of their poll either -- "I don’t think the bad poll numbers for Occupy Wall Street reflect Americans being unconcerned with wealth inequality. Polling we did in some key swing states earlier this year found overwhelming support for raising taxes on people who make over $150,000 a year. In late September we found that 73% of voters supported the ‘Buffett rule’ with only 16% opposed. And in October we found that Senators resistant to raising taxes on those who make more than a million dollars a year could pay a price at the polls. I don’t think any of that has changed- what the downturn in Occupy Wall Street’s image suggests is that voters are seeing the movement as more about the ‘Occupy’ than the ‘Wall Street.’ The controversy over the protests is starting to drown out the actual message."
So I guess this poll does confirm that you and your kind have been successful in painting OWS in a bad light. Too bad you refuse to consider their message.
Obama Admin helps shut down OWS. Update: 'Occupy' crackdowns coordinated with federal law enforcement officials http://www.examiner.com/top-news-in...wns-aided-by-federal-law-enforcement-agencies Over the past ten days, more than a dozen cities have moved to evict "Occupy" protesters from city parks and other public spaces. As was the case in last night's move in New York City, each of the police actions shares a number of characteristics. And according to one Justice official, each of those actions was coordinated with help from Homeland Security, the FBI and other federal police agencies. The official, who spoke on background to me late Monday evening, said that while local police agencies had received tactical and planning advice from national agencies, the ultimate decision on how each jurisdiction handles the Occupy protests ultimately rests with local law enforcement. According to this official, in several recent conference calls and briefings, local police agencies were advised to seek a legal reason to evict residents of tent cities, focusing on zoning laws and existing curfew rules. Agencies were also advised to demonstrate a massive show of police force, including large numbers in riot gear. In particular, the FBI reportedly advised on press relations, with one presentation suggesting that any moves to evict protesters be coordinated for a time when the press was the least likely to be present. The FBI has so far failed to respond to requests for an official response, and of the 14 local police agencies contacted in the past 24 hours, all have declined to respond to questions on this issue. But in a recent interview with the BBC," Oakland Mayor Jean Quan mentioned she was on a conference call just before the recent wave of crackdowns began. "I was recently on a conference call of 18 cities who had the same situation, where what had started as a political movement and a political encampment ended up being an encampment that was no longer in control of the people who started them." At the time this story was updated, Mayor Quan's office had declined to discuss her comments. UPDATE: Wednesday, 10:10 am CT. I'm working on at least one new story for today, but I wanted to try and clear up a couple of questions I've gotten since this original story posted yesterday. I have a hunch that Mayor Quan might have been referring to a conference call between a number of U.S. mayors in her interview, not one with law enforcement officials. But that's just a hunch on my part, since her office has so far declined to offer any explanation of her comments to me. My original source for the story (who still works at the Justice Dept.) stands behind the original story and we're working to flesh it out in more detail today. I also have some other aspects of the story I'm working on as well. I'll post a link to my next story here or if you want to be automatically notified, subscribe to my feed here. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me at rellisfall@gmail.com.
that message apparently includes committing lewd acts in front of children. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/occupy-la-five-charged-with-crimes.html so, what exactly separates #OWS from #OccupySandusky?
<iframe title="MRC TV video player" width="640" height="360" src="http://www.mrctv.org/embed/107498 frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> the civil rights movement was for pansies. this is way more important.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2011/nov/15/call-action-vulture-funds-preying-poor I swear to God, if Wall Street financiers could find a way to convert pure human misery into an ETF, they'd probably trade it long, and find a way to make a 200% return.
You guys keep trying to vilify the cause with its detritus. It's the same as championing fascism because the trains run on time. When people get out in the streets it creates the carnival atmosphere and that means you get the carnies too. The petty criminals don't define the issue. The issue is on the scale of hundreds of billions of dollars and the crimes of subverting the government from the greater good of the people. Why don't you discuss the relative merits of corporate money's influence on political discourse? Why do you think the Citizen United ruling is a positive development for American politics and representative government? Why should corporations, which hold no citizenship, or voting rights, or allegiance to the nation be given an uncontrolled hand in influencing political messages? If you do maybe someone would read it. But if you keep posting your crap I for one will just keep right on ignoring it. Mostly because it's boring and banal.
