Read some labor history or revisit the civil rights movement. BTW the Egyptian and Tunisian authorities did not start off with tanks and attack helicopters. You would find that the intial response was about on the same level of that of the NYC. They may have been talking about public health concerns intially. We would hope that it would not come to that.
tweet of the day: So now #OWS is cutting locks on church property. Next up: attaching 95 feces to the door.
a message from the park: Last night, I watched lower Manhattan turn into a militarized lockdown. The park known as Liberty Square was apparently cleared by force, though I arrived 20 minutes after the police barricades encircled a two-block radius, kicked out all media and prevented all foot traffic on public sidewalks surrounding the park. This was expected. The emergency text message went out at 1:00 AM and read, "URGENT: Hundreds of police mobilizing around Zuccotti. Eviction in progress!" prompting a mass mobilization of people like me, part-time protesters who signed up to converge on the park for the looming police raid on the physical heart of the Occupy movement. The police were prepared for this flood of bodies. Many subway stops were shut down, as was the Brooklyn Bridge. My go bag had been packed for weeks, waiting for just this moment. I laced up my boots, and spent an agonizing 20 minutes on the subway from Brooklyn. Upon arrival in lower Manhattan, I struggled for about two hours to get to a position where I could see into the park, to no avail. From a block away, I saw massive piles of what used to be supplies dumped into waiting trucks. People's major concerns were two-fold: first, the health and safety of the occupiers locked in the camp; and second, the 5,000 books of the Occupy Wall Street library. What a picture it would be (maybe it exists) of police in riot gear gathering boxes of donated books and loading them into garbage trucks. A perfect metaphor for what appears to be the intention of last night's raid: destroying the body of knowledge that had been collected by a movement just two months old, which was built by collective effort, literally from the ground up. After four hours of wandering in groups and alone on the dark, empty streets of lower Manhattan, Foley Square, a park rich with the history of labor struggles in New York City, became the rallying point. After a short discussion with the handful of police on hand, Foley Square was determined to be a safe zone - for the time being. Here I sit, watching the pulse of the Occupy Wall Street movement strengthen. Stories of arrests are being exchanged over a breakfast of apples and muffins. A sleepless crowd is beginning to be reinforced by New Yorkers from around the city as the morning news streams images of a camp turned back into a barren, soulless corporate park known as Zuccotti. But the drums are back. The spirit and the idea of the Occupy movement has only been strengthened. Today is the end of the beginning, and what has been built cannot be disbanded. Now, we stand at the beginning of the next phase, looking into the eyes of the people who created a new consciousness and a new politics. Today is November 15, 2011, a beautiful day tainted only by the physical harm of those who left their blood and sweat on the cement of Liberty Park.
Judge who signed order reinstating protest removed from case: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ll-street-order-aclu-veteran-article-1.977725
So do you think that the NYPD, Oakland PD and etc.. will start using tanks and attack helicopters since Tunis and Egyptian authorities tactics were similar to NYPD tactics initially? (note neither Egyptians or Tunisian authorities used tanks or attack helicopters against protestors.) Do you think they will start using Pinkertons with Tommy Guns? I doubt even you believe that. Also note Mathloom said "Syria" not "Egypt", "Tunis", "the labor movement". Anyway even while I don't agree with the removal of protestors, I think there is a 1st Amendment issue here, this isn't on the level of Syria or even to Pullman Strikes.
Really? You really think that its possible that NYPD, Oakland PD and etc.. will use tanks and attack helicopters against OWS?
Leaving aside the hyperbole or whether there is enough coverage given I am very interested in the Constitutional question. Is occupation speech and does the exercise of that occupation outweigh public welfare concerns that are cited by authorities?
Please let them back into the park with their tents. I need to see how they handle a late January Nor'easter. Will they run home to mommy or fight the good fight.
It depends the size of OWS and the way they are protesting. If there are 20 million people out on the streets robbing and burning the factories with guns like Libyans did, US will use tanks.
And you think that 20 million people out on the streets robbing and burning factories with guns is a possibility arising from the OWS?
so we have a mentally r****ded person who somehow believes that running someone over with their car is not-violent and a-****ing-ok, but squatting in a park is violence. this country needs an enema so bad and it should start with that muther****er.
