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Right maybe not in US, but Lebron could make a lot of money in say China or wherever he goes I imagine. If he does go any where ESPN will still follow the guy and the rest of the players should they pursue the overseas option.

Which will be ironic...since they will make less most likely than what they would have had they took the deal...

 

The real people getting screwed are all the little people who count on the NBA to make their own ends meet. It's no sweat off my back if these greedy bastards don't want to play. I just have to turn my TV to something else. All the businesses (restaraunts, etc.) in vicinity of the arenas, not to mention the arena workers, etc., are the ones who are going to have problems making ends meet. From an economy standpoint, it probably couldn't happen at a worse time for many of these people.

 

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Can the players still vote or is it too late??

Did they even get a chance to vote???

 

I've been able to watch full game replays. As long as you don't check scores beforehand, it's live to you. Haha.

 

sam_amick Sam Amick
Threat of decertification absolutely came into play. Source tells me NBPA head Billy Hunter was consistently checking on tally of players...

sam_amick Sam Amick
...in favor of decert, with his mindset being that if that threat was real then they might as well disclaim. Without threat, different story

HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
Stern goes on offensive in statement, saying Kessler threatened NBA with dissolving union in Feb. 2010.

HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
The NBA's argument is a legal one -- union can't use decertification or disclaimer as a bargaining strategy, under labor law.

HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
NBA/Stern had made that case previously in its unfair-labor charge against the union, filed with NLRB

HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
Stern concludes: “There will ultimately be a new collective bargaining agreement, but the 2011-12 season is now in jeopardy.”

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Stern pointing to bargaining session in February 2010 when union lawyer Kessler threatened anti-trust suit in emailed statement to reporters

 

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Stern will keep threatening to void contracts, and many players will say that we welcome the free agency.

 

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Stern will keep threatening to void contracts, and many players will say that we welcome the free agency.

 

player reps never presented it to the rest of the players for a vote, probably because they knew it would pass

 

Most teams are subsidized through publicly funded arenas. Many of them inherited their fortune, just as players inherented their genetic talent.

 

stephen A. smith

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7234565

 

franblinebury Fran Blinebury

Asshat.

 

What scabs, And1 guys?

College kids can't play and Euro ballers won't come over knowing that they'll lose their jobs as soon as NBA players sign a deal.

 

Memo to all NBA players looking for jobs overseas: There are no jobs overseas!

Good luck with the missed paychecks and trying to feed your multiple baby momma's child support and car and fashion bills.

Over/Under how many player go broke before the end of this calender year?

 

I seriously doubt the offer would have passed on a full vote and they probably didn't take a full vote because it wasn't worth the trouble when they knew the outcome. Al lthe team reps were there and favored rejecting the offer. I'm suire Kevin Martin will give Lowry some crap about it. But in the end those players reps were considering the opinions of all the guys from his respective team and would not have voted to reject if he thought he'd get crucified when he got back to the lockerroom.

Besides that, decertification is going to take a majority vote to pass, right? In short, there's no way Fisher and Hunter go down this road without knowing they've got a mandate.

 

You mad cause you werent born with a silver spoon in your mouth ??!!

And what does it matter if they inhereted it , its still theirs , its still a business and they should run it as such.



Name one owner who inhereted his fortune.


Many of them earner their "Empire" the hard way.

 

Yes, it's a business. And as businessmen, the players decided that giving back $3B (which well covers the owners supposed "losses") AND having system changes implemented is not fair to them. Please explain how that's fair to them without saying anything about the owners having leverage. From a purely business standpoint, if the owners claim they are losing $300M a year and the players give that amount back and then some, WTF should they agree to system changes as well??

Stern is an idiot. He had a victory and assumed that these guys didn't have the sacks to stand up for what they feel is right and sacrifice checks to do so. Dummy. If anyone wants to point a finger point it that way. The players covered all of the owners "losses".

 

Bull****! Most player never even received a call from their player reps and weren't or had some details left out of the new proposal.

 

I wonder how much of the value of a sports team is owed to the publicly funded arenas? Journalist David Cay Johnston claims the public subsidy is a significant part of making a team profitable and a big reason why teams really do not want to open their books to the public.

 

Juan,

I believe they bipassed that step, and went straight for a disclaimer which disolves the union right away and immediatly goes to court.

There is no decertification vote, no vote by the rank and file, and to top it off, it is ILLEGAL to decertify as a negotiating ploy, and the NBA has Kessler saying they would do it, in a 2010 email and has already filed against him and the NBA union.

The players are gonna get PWNED !!!

DD

 

The players felt like they were getting owned anyway, giving back $3B and agreeing to a bunch of system changes. Just my opinion, but the owners....just like 90% of the folks on this board....did not think the players had the sack to stand up for themselves and miss checks.