Penn State coach, AD, VP charged in child rape case

The parents, high school coaches, etc., all the small time parties probably got hush money. Sandusky agrees to stop contact with their kids, and in turn they get some benefits. All of them probably thought it was isolated incidents.

The bigger problem lies in the Penn State officials, who were notified of all these incidents, yet did nothing about the repeated child molestation offenses that Sandusky committed. There was repeated behavior and accusations made against him for 15+ years, yet Penn State still let him operate with his Second Mile program.

Utterly disgusting for Penn State and I hope those who were involved in this coverup get punished severely.

 

Sandusky had access to vulnerable kids via charity

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What about CPS that investigated and didn't do squat. There were a lot of people in the know. What about the coaches wife. Didn't she wonder why does my husband go hangout in the basement with the kids at night. The parents of the kids who didn't call police. The teachers who basically didn't think hmm there is an old guy who keeps hanging out with this kid. That Grand Jury testimony was pretty sick. There were plenty of times to catch this and hindsight not being 20/20, but a lot of people just looked away. They didn't want to be involved. Here were going to be no heroes in this case. People didn't want to do the right thing. These kids were "troubled youths."

In this case a majority of people just looked the other way not just joepa or the GA or the administrators. That GJ testimony was just a sad sad thing to read.

 

There was a Law and Order SVU episode exactly like this played out which had guest star Melo and Bosh on it.

So eerie.

The episode was called "Personal Foul" which aired way before this scandal came to news.

 

It's amazing to me that anyone wouldn't. It seems you have to be a pretty sick person to say a job is more important than stopping child molestation.

 

You wouldn't call 911 if you witnessed someone being raped?

 

This event didn't happen in a vacuum with total strangers involved.

 

It's amazing that some folks say they would hesitate.... Wouldnt matter to me if it's a family member... Only difference is cops would have been called after an ass whippin

 

It's interesting, and ultimately none of us know exactly what we would do until we're in that situation.

If you'd worked with someone, and even had been coached by that someone (which almost instills a military style respect for authority and hierarchy), and *then* you caught a glimpse of them doing something horrifying, ... I can see a person questioning themselves. "Well, what did I see exactly? How old was the other person? Maybe I'm totally wrong." etc. If you've ever been in organized school athletics, you get what "coach" means and in this case, McQ maybe even saw il Monstro as a friend.

I mean, I want to type what everyone else wants to type: I would whup that coach and then call the police to get the remains! But I've never been in that situation.

It doesn't excuse ANYTHING. McQ made a horrific error and how he sleeps at all is beyond me. But history is full of "how in the world could they not do something?" moments, including whole nations full of people.

 

BS....I would of definitely stopped it. Who sees a child being raped and doesn't stop it? p*****s .

 

I predict Sandusky commits suicide before ever setting foot in prison.

 

I can understand shell shock from the former QB seeing that, and there are all sorts of experiments where authority figures can get people to do terrible things.

But he called his father, who should be under no such spell. He should have told his son to get his ass in there and stop it (he's a former QB against an old man FFS), use a bat if that's what it takes. Or call the police immediately at the very least. Absolutely no excuse.

 

its easy for everyone on the internets to say i would have done this and that. hopefully you and i would have done this and that but there are human reactions to why these guys didn't do the right thing. no excuses for them, just is what it is

 

The fact that this happened to a young, innocent little boy makes this even worse.

If we can't protect the kids, who will then?

I would have at least pulled him away from the boy and called the cops ASAP while making sure he wouldn't make a run for it.

 

I think I would have done exactly the same thing, minimum. I have never had the chance to prove it, much like 99.9% of the typists in this thread.

History shows for every person who ran the underground rail road or plotted to kill a dictator there are millions of "p*****s" who just decide not to cause a fuss. It's the human "ground state," if you will. Maybe all of us in this thread are exceptional and would not walk away -- I hope that's true.

I'm blown away by McQuery's behavior, truly, but the history of human beings shows it's disgustingly not shocking.

I will type here that I would have been a much better human being than that, but I have never proven it in such a case. So, to be fair, I can only type what I think I would do. You guys typing what you would do, if you haven't proven it, might as well tell us you would hit the game-tying 3-pointer with Kobe in your grill too. You've had just as much experience with that.

Okay /devil's advocate. Just trying to get people to think a little bit, even if it's disturbing. But I'll stop now.

I'm really glad Penn State lost, by the way, and I hate that the media had to report JoePa's reaction. I mean, really? We want his football takes now?

Finally, I hate that I checked the ESPN game updates for it, and witnessed advertising that benefits from Penn State still having football games. I do hate that I did that.

 

Agree with this completely, even despite all my devil's advocate stuff. There's a great essay in the ESPN universe of pieces on this about the Father being the most unbelievably lame person with direct knowledge. How do you not tell your kid to do the right thing? How on this Earth.

 

Sandusky's home was vandalized, and guess where he lives?

JFC.

Judge Who Freed Sandusky on Bail Reportedly Volunteered at His Charity

 

Jack Raykovitz, CEO of Sandusky charity, just resigned.

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Big Ten removes Joe Paterno's name from championship trophy. Jim Delany: "We believe it would be inappropriate to keep Joe Paterno’s name on the trophy at this time”

 

I am listening to a discussion on MPR about this very thing. As one of the commentators noted is that ethics decisions are easy only on paper and if there wasn't a context and consequences to them then there never would be such a thing as an ethical dilemma.

In this case it is easy to say in the abstract that you would act, particularly to say you would beat the hell out of Sandusky there and then, but now consider if this was someone who you were trained to look up to, someone you had worked with for years and maybe even someone you considered a friend.

As things like the Stanford Prisoner experiment show how strong a role of the power of authority can play in allowing and creating abuse.

Just to add I am not saying this to defend McQueary or anyone else at Penn State, clearly there was an ethical and moral failing, but to point out why he and others didn't act they way we presume moral people should.

 

I think there are different levels of this, though. If you see someone at the office stealing something, fine - people ignore it. They don't want to get involved, and they don't see the downside as that big a deal. Sexual harassment? People will let that go thinking the victim is only being "emotionally" harmed and can do something about if they want. Fine. Injury or rape or murder when there are (or you think there are) lots of witnesses? People might think someone else will do something, so it lets them stay out of it. Stopping a murder in progress? There's a natural aversion to putting your own life in danger, so there might be a reason to not intervene (though calling the cops would be a simple option).

But there's got to be some breaking point in each person where not wanting to get involved is superceded by the need to act. If a person has ANY breaking point, you'd think this case would be it. You have rape, you have a defenseless kid, and you have no other witnesses - you're the only person that can stop this. I can even understand not wanting to try to jump in if the person thinks their own safety is put at risk, and instead calling the cops or yelling for help or even yelling at him to stop. But there's no way I can understand how "tell dad about it the next day" is the end result of any reasonable person in this scenario.