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Occupy Wallstreet

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. parmesh

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    See this sorta thing is unbecoming of a proper libertarian.
    We should be focusing on things we have in common with progressives. And there's actually quite a bit. We should use this to implement real change in a system dominated by mindless liberal-neoconservatism.
    All the other stuff, we can fight at the state government level at another time.
     
  2. Hightop

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    I could never align with the dirt bags OWS violent socialists. No way.
     
  3. Dubious

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    Toppers, you need to get on the Buddy train. Republican reform Baptist populism is you man.
     
  4. parmesh

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    I'm curious. Why not ally on common issues, and agree to fight over the others later? It's what a lot of libertarians advocate. Ron Paul among them may I add.
     
  5. parmesh

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    Why Buddy over Paul or Johnson? Why bring religion into this?
     
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    Because he is no libertarian. He just wants to fight the cultural war against the "pigs."
     
  7. tallanvor

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    How ignorant do you have to be to think a libertarian should support occupying wall-street. Do you not know what a free-market is? It doesn't involve telling private enterprises how much money they should have or how much they should hire.
     
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  8. Hightop

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    I don't align myself with evil.
     
  9. mc mark

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    The last dying, primal scream of the white boy rubble.

    Will be so glad when the rest of the dinosaurs die
     
  10. parmesh

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    I didn't say we should support controlling the every move of private enterprises. I also am not advocating physically occupying private property.

    I am saying we support some of the views that these people in the Occupy movements have. They are upset, and many, though not all, of them with good, valid reasons to be that way.

    I am saying this as an unabashed libertarian.

    And yeah, I'm quite studied on the topic of free markets. I'd love me some free markets, bro. Too bad we DO NOT and HAVE NOT had free markets in this country for a long time.

    Huge, private, government-granted central banks with full control over the currency and no accountability to elected officials manipulating interest rates, inflating the currency at record rates, and giving out large amounts money to favored, well-connected corporations and bankers has NOT and will NEVER be considered free markets. It IS the EXACT OPPOSITE.

    Maybe I'm not the ignorant one here.
    Coalitions > Compromises
     
  11. parmesh

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    *sigh*
     
  12. Hightop

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    White boy? Such evil, racist collectivism. Typical disgusting liberal hypocrisy.

    Go make your Molotov cocktails for socialism. I will be armed and ready.
     
  13. Major

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    If only they were protesting free markets, you'd have a point. Since they are not, well...
     
  14. tallanvor

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    Nobody knows what the hell they want, but one thing many of them have voiced for is more market regulation on financial institutions. That would be the opposite of free markets.
     
  15. thadeus

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    Great! Then we can claim self-defense!

    Do you have any attractive daughters?
     
  16. parmesh

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    -_-

    Man, **** this place.
     
  17. mc mark

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    there's more of us than there are of you
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    At the Occupy Minnesota protests I have seen some Ron Paul supporters out there and I think if you look at Ron Paul's platform with OWS there are some common issues.

    Libertarians and OWS don't like the idea of government collusion with big business, the influence of lobbyist (the revolving door of lobbyist and government) and also on foreign policy. You may be on to something there but as you can tell you aren't going to get much support from those who are just wrapped up in ideology.
     
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    This statement would make sense if there were such a thing as free markets.
     
  20. Major

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    Not necessarily. If you're talking about replacing current regulations with new ones, it's not necessarily the opposite of free markets. Given that many of the current regulations were written BY Wall Street to give themselves an advantage, replacing them with others may actually be pro free market.
     

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