Which is why I say you have to play the young guys and develop them for either their play for the future, or to inflate their stats for trading chips. DD
Haha, DD will say ANYTHING to make himself sound right. I love it when he tries to pretend to know what Morey is planning while suggesting exactly the opposite of what Morey said he is trying to do. If your example with Shane is supposed to support your theory that we need to be rid of Chuck, then why didn't Morey trade him during the last free agency period so he can get something for him instead of losing him in free agency for nothing, like Shane? Hmm, smart guy?
Because no one wanted to offer anything of value and he had a very low contract so no one at that level was worth trading for.....this is too easy. DD
Contested J my arse. People shoot over him. And, no matter how good he keeps people out, they still get enough position to hit their shots over him. I don't care if he switches and helps well, there needs to be a genuine shot blocking presence in the paint. If he plays as heavy minutes as he's had in the past few seasons, it means the season's gonna suck.
Hey DD, just because Chuck doesnt outscore his man doesn't mean his offense is limited.... Putting the ball in the hoop is only one facet of offensive play.
All I have to say to this is... that was an old free throw shot He was much better last year and wow... 6 pages before I comment.. yall should be proud of me
haha, aldrige is an allstar and Gasol was ranked top 11 so yeah I take Chuck any day They can shoot over him
A nice read on Chuck’s atrocious offense: Not quite impossible for one very special person, Mr. Layman writer.
I will try to explain my thoughts one more time. Chuck is at his all time value, he will soon become a declining asset. It is at that time (If you are not in a WIN NOW mode) that you get rid of those assets to clear the deck for ascending assets like Patterson. It is just good business, because soon, Chuck will start to decline, and you don't want to be holding those assets, you want to be holding the ones that represent growth. While Chuck has served his purpose here, and done it admirably, there is no reason this team should even think about signing him, that money would be better used helping us aquire a star player. Clear Chuck off the books, get some more playing time for the ascending assets, and try to use the cap money to help you get a difference maker. I know some of you are attached to the guy, I get that....it happens, but IMO, we have to look out for the good of the franchise overall, and that would be to let the man go to another team - same as Shane. While we might be a little worse at first, we would be better off in the end. DD
I like how at first DD insults everyone who thinks Chuck is good by calling them the layman role player lover brigade who’s brainwashed into accepting one-way players. Nevermind his fetishes for one-way players Brooks and Budinger and faith in scrubs like Thabeet and Jordan THE MAN Hill. Then he gets owned on all his BS and changes the subject to the Rockets shouldn’t sign Chuck because of money reasons and that he DOES, in fact, make the Rockets better and they need to tank. This is how I picture DD in threads like this:
But don't you think if the rockets were not going to keep chuck, they would try to get some value from him instead of just letting him walk. I have a feeling he'll be resigned.
No, I think they make a decision every single year on what is good for the team. If there was a good offer for him at the last trade deadline, I am sure they would have moved him. They might sign him again, but I don't think they will, I think they let him walk. DD
regarding saying he's declining: Let's forget the fact he's only 28 yrs old....five years younger than Battier Let's forget the fact he doesn't get injured. Let's forget the fact he succeeds on brains, hard work and determination (not declining athleticism) What you are completely dismissing as valuable is his infectious work ethic, and his ability to teach the "young assets". He is valuable enough for that to warrant one of 15 player spots. Trading him will NEVER get equal value back. He helps the young players and coaches in practice and as a on-court captain and hardworking roll model. He can help achieve what you want as a Rocket vs trading him for less value. bottomline: This is not a fantasy team where leadership intangibles have no role. Why are you so insistent on trading our captain for less value than he's worth to us when your argument can just be about favoring less playing time for Hayes vs the "young assets." Why not just argue less PT vs getting rid of him
I considered everything you said here, but the value of him teaching work ethic etc is important, but the Rockets already have a bunch of players like that. It is not personal - I know it is for most laymen fans (LOL)....but for me, it is all about getting closer to a championship team. Chuck has to go. DD
DaDakota, It's not just work ethic. Hayes is easily the smartest frontcourt player on the team (whose primary language is English). He's like a player coach. Saying "we have many other players like this," that's not true if we trade Scola for more "young assets." Hayes would then be our last frontcourt veteran (at age 28 mind you) on the team. This is too polarizing for most intelligent Rockets fans. Less PT can achieve the same thing, (not to say I'm advocating that, but you could and thus avoid creating a 2012 mantra for yourself that you have to defend endlessly). Why so polarizing when you don't need to be to achieve your goal? nevermind, we know the answer.
You are basing your entire point on an "IF" they trade Scola.... I am basing mine on what is best for the team going forward and how we can get closer to being a contender. If the fans are intelligent then they would understand that coaches have a tendency to try to win now, and will play veterans over younger guys that need that time to develop. We are not in "WIN NOW" mode, we are in development mode. And sometimes you have to trade security blankets away for the good of the team. Just like Shane, and we got better play for CBud because it opened up that spot. Now, I agree it is a polarizing opinion, but I have never worried about that....if you think otherwise, it is ok by me.....I just do not agree. I can sleep fine knowing that....lol. DD
I have to speak to what lay people like you would understand, royalty like me sometimes has to get into the mire to bang some common sense into serfs like you. DD
