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Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by DallasThomas, Nov 1, 2011.

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  1. Audioout

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    What is wrong with you? Do you just think you don't need to follow thread rules? Do you just think that your opinion is just so important that it transcends the very purpose of the thread? :mad:

    Jody Genessy: Jazz forward Jeremy Evans wants a deal to be signed pronto: "I just think it's silly that we're fighting over so much money."
     
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  2. ascaptjack

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/s...oices-none-of-them-appealing.html?_r=1&src=tp

     
  3. ascaptjack

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    RicBucher Ric Bucher
    Sources: NBA Draft order formula if there is no season has been discussed but not decided upon. Details in story you-know-where coming.

    sluhm Steve Luhm by HowardBeckNYT
    When labor situation is settled, NBA should send all its young players to the Chauncey Billups School of Professionalism. One of the best.

    Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
    7-11 hard-line owners expressed their displeasure with David Stern's 50/50 offer to the players Monday on a conference call, sources said..

    Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
    The owners on the call included Michael Jordan, Paul Allen and Herb Kohl. They are hoping the players reject the offer, sources said...
     
  4. ascaptjack

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    Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
    The owners fear the player reps meeting in NYC Tuesday will push for approval of the deal. David Stern was not on the conference call..

    Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
    The hard-line owners prefer the alternative deal that will go into effect Wed if players reject 50/50 - 47 pct, flex cap, contract rollbacks
     
  5. UTAllTheWay

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    Of course they prefer that deal....
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    Reverse psychology. The 47% deal is empty threat.
     
  7. TheGreat

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    Maybe the players should threaten the owners to accept the 52-48 split by tomorrow night!

    Jajaja
     
  8. coachbadlee

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    Man, this is like a movie! The suspense is killing me!
     
  9. coachbadlee

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    Yes. The players will take the deal in order to spite the hard liners! Wait, did i just give away the ending?;)
     
  10. BimaThug

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    BINGO!!!

    Funny thing is, there are many players who might fall for it.

    Too bad it's gotten so emotional that we're hoping such childish strategies succeed to get them to the right result.
     
  11. Carl Herrera

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    Yes. Stupids like Kevin Martin might fall for it. :)
     
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    <!-- http://twitter.com/RicBucher/status/133783424031924224 --><div id='embedly_twitter_39456844' class='embedly_twitter'><style type='text/css'> #embedly_twitter_39456844{background:url(http://a2.twimg.com/profile_background_images/24638205/ricbucher.jpg) #0f0e14; padding:20px;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 p{background:#fff;padding:10px 12px 0px 12px;margin:0;min-height:48px;color:#000;font-size:18px;line-height:22px;-moz-border-radius:5px;-webkit-border-radius:5px} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .embedly_tweet_content{background:#fff;padding:10px 12px 10px 12px;margin:0;min-height:48px;color:#000;font-size:18px !important;line-height:22px;-moz-border-radius:5px;-webkit-border-radius:5px} #embedly_twitter_39456844 p span.metadata{display:block;width:100%;clear:both;margin-top:0px;height:40px; padding-bottom: 12px;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 p span.metadata span.author{line-height:15px;color:#999;font-size:14px} #embedly_twitter_39456844 p span.metadata span.author a{line-height:15px;font-size:20px;vertical-align:middle} #embedly_twitter_39456844 p span.metadata span.author img{float:left;margin:0 10px 0 0px;width:48px;height:48px} #embedly_twitter_39456844 p a {color: #1b1b9e; text-decoration:none;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 p a:hover{text-decoration:underline} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .embedly_timestamp{font-size:13px;display:inline-block;margin-top: 5px;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .components-above span.embedly_timestamp{font-size:10px;margin-top: 1px;line-height:12px} #embedly_twitter_39456844 a {color: #1b1b9e; text-decoration:none;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 a:hover{text-decoration:underline} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-screen-name {font-size: 14px; font-weight: bold;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-full-name {padding-left: 4px; color: #999; font-size: 12px;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-actions{margin-left: 10px;font-size:13px;display:inline-block;width:250px} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .components-above span.tweet-actions{font-size:10px} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .controls{line-height:12px!important} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-actions a {margin-left:5px} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-actions a b{font-weight:normal} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .components-above span.tweet-actions a b{vertical-align:baseline;line-height:12px} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .components-above .tweet-text{font-size:13px;vertical-align:baseline} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-image {float: left; width: 40px;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-user-block-image {float: left; width: 48px; height: 48px} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-row {margin-left: 40px; margin-top: 3px;line-height: 17px;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-user-block {margin-left: -40px;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .stream-item {padding-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 12px;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .simple-tweet-image img {margin-top: 4px;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .simple-tweet-content {margin: 0 0 13px 0px; font-size: 14px; min-height:48px;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .in-reply-to-border {border-color: #EBEBEB; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 0 0;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .in-reply-to-text {margin-left: 4px; padding-left: 8px; padding-right: 10px; color: #999; font-size: 12px;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-actions i {background: transparent url(http://a2.twimg.com/a/1306889658/phoenix/img/sprite-icons.png) no-repeat;width:15px;height:15px;margin:0 4px -3px 3px;outline: none; text-indent:-99999px;vertical-align:baseline;display:inline-block;position:relative;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-actions a.retweet-action i {background-position:-192px 0;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-actions a.reply-action i {background-position:0 0;} #embedly_twitter_39456844 .tweet-actions a.favorite-action i {background-position:-32px 0;} </style><div class="embedly_tweet_content"><div class="components-middle"><p><span class='metadata'><span class='author'><a href='http://twitter.com/RicBucher'><img src='http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/319250942/bucher_normal.jpg' /></a><strong><a href='http://twitter.com/RicBucher'>@RicBucher</a></strong><br/>Ric Bucher</span></span> Likeliest NBA draft order formula if no season: 3 seasons aggregated for order, then lottery for worst 14. Slightly weighted in other ways.<br/><span class='embedly_timestamp'><a title='Tue Nov 08 05:50:28 +0000 2011' href='http://twitter.com/RicBucher/status/133783424031924224'>Nov 08</a> via web</span><span class="tweet-actions"><a href="https://twitter.com/intent/favorite?tweet_id=133783424031924224" class="favorite-action" title="Favorite"><span><i></i><b>Favorite</b></span></a><a href="https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=133783424031924224" class="retweet-action" title="Retweet"><span><i></i><b>Retweet</b></span></a><a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=133783424031924224" class="reply-action" title="Reply"><span><i></i><b>Reply</b></span></a></span></p></div></div></div>
    Draft position based on 3-Year Record via anchel:

     
  13. ascaptjack

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    sam_amick Sam Amick
    Source says Wasserman Media Group, agency of Arn Tellem, had conf call today w/ players 2 discuss players options. WMG reps 70-plus guys.

    sam_amick Sam Amick
    Other prominent agents did the same thing. Players scrambling to get educated and form opinions b4 Wed. deadline.
     
  14. Aleron

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    Do you really think a guy who co-founded Microsoft is adverse to such hard line tactics? :eek:
     
  15. B-Bob

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    It's more interesting than minutes 1-42, and games 1-60 of most NBA games and seasons, which is a big problem.
     
  16. francis 4 prez

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    well yeah, because costs are going to be the same no matter what BRI split is negotiated for the owners, be it the 50% they want or the 43% they had. so in this case, any change in revenue split is a change in earnings.




    i'm pretty sure the money was big when they made the last CBA. and really it's the max contract being small, not large, that knocks the money incentive out of whack with the winning incentive. since lebron only has to choose between maybe a million a year and playing where he wants and with whom he wants versus say having to choose between $15 million a year (he could probably get a contract around $30M in a free market) to play where and with whom he wants, it does make it easier to ignore the money. but you aren't proposing to solve that. and in fact the owners are apparently even trying to lower the max contract, hilariously subverting their own efforts to make players want to stay in place. you just want to say no one can move and cure the symptom rather than fight the source of the disease.

    they do? it seems to me losing teams struggle to keep talent, but plenty of good players have resigned with their small market teams who were doing well. hell, even lebron and bosh both resigned once each with their former teams. they were there for 7 years.

    is it safe to assume you would also be in favor of allowing the players to opt out whenever and renegotiate their contracts?
     
  17. ascaptjack

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    Back to the updates. :rolleyes:

    alanhahn Alan Hahn
    Great, I can go home now. RT @Wgonzo21: @alanhahn hey brother, espn radio is saying players are expected to reject latest offer! No bueno!

    DwainPrice Dwain Price by HowardBeckNYT
    Ex-NBA player Derek Harper: "I think tomorrow we're going to have a deal. I think guys want to play.''
     
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    Bill Clinton sighting! :p


    HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
    KBergCBS Ken Berger
     
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    U think we should take the owners proposal?
     
  20. ascaptjack

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    Hey Bud, you team mate Kevin Martin wants to party!

    :p
     

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