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Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Rockets1616, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. DaDakota

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    LOL - well that convinced me....

    DD
     
  2. SamFisher

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    You shouldn't really need convincing, if you understood anything about the Longhorns offensive philosophy via Harsin and what they are trying to do, you wouldn't be making silly unsupported general statements on this topic. You'd be off in another thread, probably making other silly statements.

    There's a lot of archived posts about this in various corners of the internet, go find them and read them.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    I love how you argue Sam, you just make up ****, tell people they don't watch the games, insinuate they are idiots and move on....

    LOL - well done....

    If only I lived in Austin and understood the team more than you, dang it...if only.....

    DD
     
  4. DaDakota

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    BTW Sammy - still waiting on you to show where Moneyball actually worked and won anything.....

    DD
     
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    I know he's a freshman, let's see how he looks next year.

    McCoy looked much better when he first started at UT than Ash, so did Chris Simms.
     
  6. Major

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    Oakland won a few division titles with it.
    Boston won a couple of World Series with it.

    Now that the majority of teams employ it in some form or another, it can't win most of the time because not everyone can win by definition.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    God you are piling on the stupid today.

    Why don't you start another thread instead of subjecting us to this garbage?

    Ignoramuses of the world - the bar has just been lowered.

    The vaunted "i live in austin!" argument, geographic proximitiy in lieu of facts, logic or even a baseline level of knowledge.

    You are on notice! Big boy is using some form of localized osmosois to assimilate knowledge
     
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  8. DaDakota

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    Oakland did ok, Boston is a good example, I forgot about Epstein.....

    Still, that is baseball.....not sure how Moneyball or those metrics work in football.

    DD
     
  9. SamFisher

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    You're not surethat ignoring conventional norms that make no sense and have no facts backing them up in favor of actual results works in football! Osmosis fail!
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Well of course using actual facts work, silly boy....Results matter more than stats....

    I am just not sure your Moneyball reference relates well to football.

    DD
     
  11. SamFisher

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    And this is the type of slow-headed idiocy that ensures that it will (and does). See Bill Belichick, inter alia.
     
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    New England Patriots.
     
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    True but Colt also took over a team with a MUCH better and experienced supporting cast which included 3 offensive lineman that went onto the NFL and Jamaal Charles. Ash on the other hand has an OL which is manned by 3 freshman at times, 2 of them being true freshman. Also, there's a big difference between starting as a redshirt freshman vs. being a true.
     
  14. rockbox

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    If LSU and Alabama can win with their turds at quarterback, we can win with Ash. I don't know Ash will be the answer but nothing he has done has raised any red flags for me unlike GG and Case. I saw GG's tunnel vision and over stride problem during the Alabama game. Case doesn't have a strong enough arm to spread the field. If he develops some arm strength, then he could be decent.
     
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    he had 2 in the ou game. then 2 in the osu game, and i don't think many would argue they have a good defense. and considering that he didn't complete a single pass to a receiver more than 10 yards down the field (i don't want to be accused of making stuff up, but i think that's true), it wasn't like he was exactly winging it all over the place and making tough throws to get those picks. and then against ku, who definitely has a terrible defense, in a game where we pounded them on the ground and only asked ash to make a bunch of short throws, on one of the few intermediate passes he did try to make he threw a pick in the endzone.

    and Major's post simply said ash and mccoy weren't turning it over all the time like gilbert. and while the combo isn't, ash is. just purely by the numbers. i certainly wouldn't say the cross-section of defenses ash has faced (iowa st, ou, osu, ku, tech) is any better than what gilbert faced last year.

    i would say he put it up in an offense that struggled to get rushing yards on anybody and didn't allow us to hide any of his weaknesses as a passer (of which there were many) and forced gilbert to throw 40 times a game to even worse receivers than we have this year. ash (and mccoy) are getting to throw passes off of our running game this year because everybody has had so much trouble stopping it. it seems hard to believe gilbert would do worse than he did when getting to pick and choose when to throw against defenses focused on stopping the run.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    What? They are being held up as some Moneyball standard......LOL...really????

    DD
     
  17. SamFisher

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    So, my avoirdupois ami, do you actually follow professional sports at all?

    You obviously don't follow them in Austin despite your massive presence on the local scene...no?
     
  18. DaDakota

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    LOL - everyone uses advanced statistics, but in the end it comes down to good old blocking and tackling....and the details.

    And you are correct, I am a massive presence in Austin......too danged Massive these days.

    DD
     
  19. SamFisher

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    ...and yet he DID do worse. See BYU & in particular, watch and listen to this sequence:

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DKeQxl8b8JQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  20. rockbox

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    That first interception pretty much tells all you need to know about GG.
     
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