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Occupy Wallstreet

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. Dubious

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    the status quo is is a big ol rock of momentum rolling down the Himalayas, toward international corporate ownership of government(s) by the manipulation of public perception through the control of information. Your petty partisan politics are a means not an end.
     
  2. tallanvor

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    and almost all those people you mentioned (not sure about John Yoo or Roberts) support free markets aka no relationship between government and corporations. Liberals support what you are talking about (Solyndra, GM, Light Squared, a trillion dollars handed out to whatever company Democrats think deserve it).
     
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  3. Dubious

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    The Corporation is a human idea, a construct to achieve efficiency in economic development. It is designed to be be self-evaluating, self-improving and self-replicating. Like a shark in nature it's only purpose is to dominate in it's environment. It is neither good nor bad because it is not conscious, it has no soul.

    If I were Gene Rodenberry and creative , I might write it as V'Ger or The Borg.

    I, and The Enterprise Captains, oppose the Souless Efficiency because we believe the point and purpose of human existence is the betterment, evolution and enjoyment of The Soul (non-religious), peace, art, beauty, love, laughter, rock'n roll, and effusive worthless BS. And science; science is the best truth we can achieve.

    HIT IT!

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  4. Hightop

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    SHUT DOWN BURGER KING!

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  5. Deckard

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    Well said! My only quibble is that Roddenberry is spelled with two d's. ;-)-
     
  6. Dubious

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    I'm guess i'm saying: American lawyers, American Investment Bankers, Public Relations Experts, Advertising Designers and Lobbyist are really really good at their jobs. Allowing corporations to loose them them unfettered on to the elective process, unrestricted by money since this stuff actually pays corporations back a rate of return on being nefarious, eventually their will be a system totally designed for their financial benefit. They will have all the money, pay no taxes and will allow Americans just the amount of financial earning power their models say is required to keep the system working, i.e. like the Saudi's and OPEC try to control oil prices for maximum profit without killing off the world economy.

    If, the people are distracted by the legal but duplicitous tactics, like this week: voting to re-affirm "in God We Trust" as the national motto or "A Constitutional Amendment Prohibiting Flag Burning" or "Tax and Spend Democrats" when tax rates are actually lower under Obama and the deficit spending plan is a Bush/Reagan platform, The People cannot decide how the nation's priorities should be set with their own thoughts and conversation. All their thoughts and conversation are dictated to them by FOX and Friends. Because some very smart people have designed it to do that.

    If youwant to start figuring out what is real and what is 'corporate construct', always follow the money...or information. When you get to a point where they say "we don't have to tell you where the money came from" (SuperPAC) that's where the liars are. If you get to a point where they say, "that information is proprietary, we have to redact the source", that's where the liars are. And whatever they say is a lie and probably the opposite is the truth.

    The people that say "this is everything we know, see what you think and let us know" are the people to listen to. AND they probably got their money from a government grant, maybe a foundation grant. They may get it from George Soros, question that if you want.


    It's that simple, people will learn ..... but probably not until the Congressional's in 2014, I think, for no educated reason what so ever.
     
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  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    You do realize that the "trillion dollars handed out" happened on a Republican's watch, right?
     
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    Bush was a RINO, it's imperative to check with Republican god-hero Reagen!

    ruh roh
     
  9. Hightop

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    ^ the stereotype of tea partiers as "wealthy" is kind of ridiculous - they're underwritten by the wealthy, such as the libertarian Koch brothers - but the non-retired ones not on scooters tend to be two-income households with dependents making high-5 figure household incomes.

    Basically they've been left behind as well, which is where a lot of their rage comes from.
     
  12. Cohete Rojo

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    LPNGR

    Considering that he has a family, he is less likely to be honset with his supervisor about how feels about the lack of time off as compared to someone without a family (wife or children). Having a wife, kids, mortgage, car payments, student loans and a new backyard grill to pay off will change how you behave towards management, supervisors and authority figures in general.

    So he is out there 80% of the year, what's she doing? I'm pretty sure she is not incapable of getting a job so that he can afford some time off. I mean she had the capacity to write that letter.

    Point is, I sometimes feel like the OWS crowd is doing what a lot of people feel/think should be done, and that it is something they want to do. However they cannot afford to protest or speak up because their situation in life prevents them from doing so.

    And what is truly wrong is that she failed to mention gasoline.
     
  13. robbie380

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    The tea party being more wealthy is unavoidable since they are older and many retired.

    Anyhow, does anyone know the breakdown of the political affiliations for the "1%"?
     
  14. basso

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    free your minds.

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  15. Dubious

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    I don't think the 1% even matters. It probably only matters how the CEO's of the 1300 top International Corporations want to direct their political money (I think that was the number from Rhads New Scientist article)

    And it may be smaller than that, down to the number of the most influential Super Pac's, top K Street firms and major party political strategist. The real power of the corporatocracy could be a subset of the membership at Augusta National.
     
  16. basso

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    fify.
     
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  18. FranchiseBlade

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    apparently the word thugs lost it's meaning long ago. lol
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    gotta love how our neo-conservative posters here are desperately trying to find anything to discredit the movement. And yet they can't.

    Haha - it's fun to watch.
     
  20. Carl Herrera

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    Yep, this is my stereotype of the Tea Partier:

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