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So what do Liberals want socialized?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Hightop, Nov 2, 2011.

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  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I'm not very liberal but I believe we should "socialize" anything that is proven more efficient.

    Medicine, infrastructure, military, and education. I personally don't believe in SS but I believe in disability. People should work until they can't work anymore or can afford to retire.
     
  2. B-Bob

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    I want to socialize the entire grocery industry. I hate that Whole Foods can ask me to follow them on Twitter -- I mean WTF? Who would follow a grocery store on Twitter? So I want them under the bright red boot heel of the masses!

    Also, I want to socialize sports talk radio. All comrades calling, all comrade-mediated interviews, no obnoxious capitalist hosts who read off advertisements about Subway sandwiches and other crap like that.

    Then I want to socialize the Republican party! If they can be assimilated, then we will really be on a roll.

    I'm sorry to be so honest, but hightop is right. It's time to be honest with him. He needs to know what's coming before his next purchase of gold coins and an underground porta-potty.
     
  3. RedRedemption

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    The American dream is not achievable anymore.
    That's not a result of socialism that's a result of failed Republican policies and increased corporate monopolistic protection from emerging small businesses.
    The Republicans feed you bs about how the American dream cannot be attained under liberal leadership, however they themselves have shown they care nothing for the American dream either.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    A guy starts a thread with the equivalent of a question such as "So, scumbag, what weapons do you prefer when you beat your wife?" and he's surprised no one takes him seriously.

    I smell a meowgi/shovelface reincarnation.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    The whole world!!!!

    I'm sorry but the part of your post that I quoted is antithetical to the rest of your post. As far as upward social mobility countries with far more socialism are doing better than the US. France, Spain, Denmark, Canada, Germany, Australia, and most of Europe.

    One nation that is doing worse is Great Britain which opted to go with the Austerity measures route.

    Upward social mobility in the US sucks!
     
  6. mc mark

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    New Rule: With the Super Bowl only a week away, Americans must realize what makes NFL football so great: socialism. That's right, for all the F-15 flyovers and flag waving, football is our most successful sport because the NFL takes money from the rich teams and gives it to the poor teams... just like President Obama wants to do with his secret army of ACORN volunteers. Green Bay, Wisconsin has a population of 100,000. Yet this sleepy little town on the banks of the f**k-if-I-know River has just as much of a chance of making it to the Super Bowl as the New York Jets - who next year need to just shut the hell up and play.

    Now, me personally, I haven't watched a Super Bowl since 2004, when Janet Jackson's nipple popped out during half time, and that split-second glimpse of an unrestrained black titty burned my eyes and offended me as a Christian. But I get it - who doesn't love the spectacle of juiced-up millionaires giving each other brain damage on a giant flat-screen TV with a picture so realistic it feels like Ben Roethlisberger is in your living room, grabbing your sister?

    It's no surprise that some 100 million Americans will watch the Super Bowl next week - that's 40 million more than go to church on Christmas - suck on that, Jesus! It's also 85 million more than watched the last game of the World Series, and in that is an economic lesson for America. Because football is built on an economic model of fairness and opportunity, and baseball is built on a model where the rich almost always win and the poor usually have no chance. The World Series is likeReal Housewives of Beverly Hills. You have to be a rich b**** just to play. The Super Bowl is like Tila Tequila. Anyone can get in.

    Or to put it another way, football is more like the Democratic philosophy. Democrats don't want to eliminate capitalism or competition, but they'd like it if some kids didn't have to go to a crummy school in a rotten neighborhood while others get to go to a great school and their Dad gets them into Harvard. Because when that happens "achieving the American dream" is easy for some, and just a fantasy for others.

    That's why the NFL runs itself in a way that would fit nicely on Glenn Beck's chalkboard - they literally share the wealth, through salary caps and revenue sharing - TV is their biggest source of revenue, and they put all of it in a big commie pot and split it 32 ways. Because they don't want anyone to fall too far behind. That's why the team that wins the Super Bowl picks last in the next draft. Or what the Republicans would call "punishing success."

    Baseball, on the other hand, is exactly like the Republicans, and I don't just mean it's incredibly boring. I mean their economic theory is every man for himself. The small market Pittsburgh Steelers go to the Super Bowl more than anybody - but the Pittsburgh Pirates? Levi Johnston has sperm that will not grow up and live long enough to see the Pirates in a World Series. Their payroll is about $40 million, and the Yankees is $206 million. They have about as much chance at getting in the playoffs as a poor black teenager from Newark has of becoming the CEO of Halliburton. That's why people stop going to Pirate games in May, because if you're not in the game, you become indifferent to the fate of the game, and maybe even get bitter - that's what's happening to the middle class in America. It's also how Marie Antoinette lost her head.

    So, you kind of have to laugh - the same angry white males who hate Obama because he's "redistributing wealth" just love football, a sport that succeeds economically because it does exactly that. To them, the NFL is as American as hot dogs, Chevrolet, apple pie, and a second, giant helping of apple pie. But then again, they think they're macho because their sport is football, when honestly - is there anything gayer than wearing another man's shirt?

    --Bill Maher
     
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  7. Hightop

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    Go Oilers!
     
  8. GladiatoRowdy

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    Please reply to the content of the Maher quote. It put economic systems into a context so simple that even you should be able to understand that what you call "socialism" is not evil and often produces superior outcomes than does capitalism.
     
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  10. Hightop

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    I think the government should have taken a fair amount of money from the XFL and given it to the NFL. Now that would have been fair (NFL players are just 1% of all football players). Plus all the trainers should work for free. Profiting from health care is evil.
     
  11. Hightop

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    Should be I think the government should have taken a fair amount of money from the NFL and given it to the XFL.
     
  12. mc mark

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    Yeah, I don't think you know what you mean.

    LOL!!!
     
  13. Dubious

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    Globalism. You can't be exceptional when everyone is average.

    The truer way to say it is:

    Colonialism

    you can't be statistically rich without exploiting someone into being statistically poor

    "I drink your milkshake!"
     
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  14. DaDakota

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    Mexico !

    DD
     
  15. JeopardE

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    Even basso grades this thread a failure.
     
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    This thread is funny in a boring, pathetic way.
     
  17. Hightop

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    Should I make it a poll?

    What I find funny is that everyone here also though Obama dismantling FOIA was boring too. There was only one reply to the news. Surprised I wasn't attacked there also.
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    If Hightop is the reincarnation of Mr. Meowgi, I think it's interesting to see the devolution of a sincere (if sometimes abrasive) poster a decade ago into a complete troll. He got worse over time as the Meowgi persona, and this Hightop identity is a step yet again. How does this happen?

    And, how do I know it won't happen to me? Maybe it already has?
     
  19. da_juice

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    I'll humour you.

    Education, infrastructure, military, healthcare, law enforcement, garbage pickup (on a local level), fire fighting (on a local level), social security & welfare(althought the system does need reform).
     
  20. GladiatoRowdy

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    So, you have no intelligent response to the Maher quote, got it.
     

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