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Occupy Wallstreet

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  1. Carl Herrera

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  2. mc mark

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    BTW yer photo is not linked in the story you posted. In fact it's a photobucket link. Where's it from and how do you know its a Whole Paycheck?
     
  3. tallanvor

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    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Occupy-Oakland-Hosts-General-Strike-133081358.html

    picture number four in their list of pictures from the riots in Oakland today. The caption reads "Anarchists throw chairs at the windows of a Whole Foods during an Occupy demonstration November 2, 2011 in Oakland, California. "
     
  4. mc mark

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    thank you

    But how you put those two links together is impressive. It almost makes it look like all OWS people are bad people.
     
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  5. mc mark

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    "riots in Oakland"

    like that's anything new!

    LOL
     
  6. Dubious

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    That is one mixed up confused old man.
     
  7. Commodore

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57316504/occupy-oakland-shuts-down-port/

    stopping commerce, the key to fixing the economy
     
  8. Dubious

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    Maybe it was more of a statement about the flow of capital out of the US to import goods made at subsistence wages with lax environmental laws and little regard for intellectual property rights; that actually end up taking decent paying manufacturing jobs away from Americans while benefitting American based corporations that shelter their profits overseas in shell corporations to avoid paying American taxes that pay for the police and military that protect the CEO's in their safe haven while they collect stock option compensation that they will only pay a 15% tax rate on, less than the dockworker with a family of four down on the pier?

    The containers come in, but they don't go out. You can't explain that?
     
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  9. tallanvor

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    More footage from Oakland

    At a Whole Foods
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    At a Bank of America.
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    Where are the police? Arrest these animals. They are blatantly destroying private property.

    This used to be funny because it was so pathetic (like Weinergate). Now it is just scary and sad because of the likelihood that people are gonna die at these things.
     
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  10. Dubious

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    What part of class warfare can you not define? Which side do you think start's them? How have they been generally been going since 1795?

    Here's some thinking music:

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  11. mc mark

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    Just like dead Iraqis during the war, consider it collateral damage. Gotta break some eggs if you wanna make an omelet.

    AMIRITE?
     
  12. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    It is mind blowing that a democratic country would consistently elect people who side - some mildly and some extremely - with wall street.
     
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    the price of arugula is Too Damn High!
     
  14. Hightop

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    I'm glad the left is above the "vitriolic rhetoric".

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    Occupy protests go from peace to "chaos"

    OAKLAND, Calif. - A protest that shut down the Port of Oakland to show the broadening reach of the Occupy Wall Street movement ended in violence when police in riot gear arrested dozens of protesters overnight who broke into a vacant building, shattered downtown windows, sprayed graffiti and set blazes along the way.

    At least four protesters were hospitalized Thursday with various injuries, including one needing stitches after fighting with an officer, police said. Several officers were also injured but didn't need hospitalization.

    "We go from having a peaceful movement to now just chaos," protester Monique Agnew, 40, said early Thursday.

    Protesters also threw concrete chunks, metal pipes, lit roman candles and molotov cocktails, police said.

    The far-flung movement of protesters challenging the world's economic systems and distribution of wealth has gained momentum in recent weeks, capturing the world's attention by shutting down one of the nation's busiest shipping ports toward the end of a daylong "general strike" that prompted solidarity rallies across the U.S.

    Complete Coverage: Occupy Wall Street protests

    Several thousands of people converged on the Port of Oakland, the nation's fifth-busiest harbor, in a nearly five-hour protest Wednesday, swarming the area and blocking exits and streets with illegally parked vehicles and hastily erected, chain-link fences afterward.

    Port spokesman Isaac Kos-Read said evening operations had been "effectively shut down."

    Port officials resumed maritime operations Thursday after about a dozen protesters manning a chain link fence blocked the port entrance earlier in the morning, backing up big trucks and prompting arguments between drivers and demonstrators. The protesters said they planned to stay until at least 9 a.m. and finally dispersed around that time.

    Supporters in New York, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and elsewhere staged smaller-scale demonstrations. Each group said its protest was a show of support for the Oakland movement, which became a rallying point when an Iraq War veteran was seriously injured in a clash with police last week.

    The larger Occupy movement has yet to coalesce into an organized association and until the port shut down had largely been limited scattershot marches, rallies and tent encampments since it began in September.

    Organizers in Oakland viewed the strike and port shutdown as a significant victory. Police said that about 7,000 people participated in demonstrations throughout the day that were peaceful except for a few incidents of vandalism at local banks and businesses.

    Boots Riley, a protest organizer, touted the day as a success, saying "we put together an ideological principle that the mainstream media wouldn't talk about two months ago."

    His comments came before a group of protesters broke into the former Travelers Aid building in order to, as some shouting protesters put it, "reclaim the building for the people."

    Riley, whose anti-capitalist views are well documented, considered the port shutdown particularly significant for organizers who targeted it in an effort to stop the "flow of capital."

    The port sends goods primarily to Asia, including wine as well as rice, fruits and nuts, and handles imported electronics, apparel and manufacturing equipment, mostly from Asia, as well as cars and parts from Toyota, Honda, Nissan and Hyundai.

    An accounting of the financial toll from the shutdown was not immediately available.

    The potential for the chaos that ultimately erupted was not something Riley wanted to even consider.

    "If they do that after all this ..." said Riley pausing cautiously, then adding, "They're smarter than that."

    But the peace that abided throughout a sunny warm autumn Wednesday, as protesters hung a large black banner downtown that read: "DEATH TO CAPITALISM," did not last as a cool midnight approached.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57317465/occupy-protests-go-from-peace-to-chaos/#ixzz1cexvOnYF
     
  15. rimrocker

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    Notice the sign on the left.

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  17. Dubious

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    It ain't the first time baby
    It won't be the last

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    It's only a class war when shops get smashed.

    ignore the fact that a large proportion of the military come from the lower-class and the middle class. ignore the fact that the upper class are barely exposed to military service. ignore the fact that there are 100,000+ homeless veterans.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2008/0108/p09s01-coop.html

    ignore the fact that America has the highest recorded incarceration rate in the world---one that approaches the historic highs of gulag Russia, and one that has a disproportionate amount of minorities and lower-class citizens within its walls.

    ignore the fact that 45,000 Americans die a year because they are uninsured. ignore the fact that about 3/5ths of all bankruptcies are caused by burgeoning medical expenses. ignore the fiscal crush of deregulated, exploding tuition, and the crushing student debt required for a decent job. ignore the fact that credit card companies target their most vulnerable clients and flip them into financial woe. ignore the fact that the companies that wall street invests in has a vested interest in making sure the American public spend beyond their means, and will employ any tricks to get them to do so, including the artificial American dream being lived by the rich who have gotten incomes beyond all of our means.

    ignore the fact that 2008 was almost wholly caused by private greed. don't let the scapegoats blame CRA or GSEs---when private MBSs were driven purely by profit, and which exploded sometimes even against regulatory currents.

    It's only a class war when shops get smashed.
     
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    I've traveled round this country
    From shore to shining shore
    It really made me wonder
    The things I heard and saw.

    I saw the weary farmer
    Plowing sod and loam
    l heard the auction hammer
    A knocking down his home

    But the banks are made of marble
    With a guard at every door
    And the vaults are stuffed with silver
    That the farmer sweated for

    l saw the seaman standing
    Idly by the shore
    l heard the bosses saying
    Got no work for you no more

    But the banks are made of marble
    With a guard at every door
    And the vaults are stuffed with silver
    That the seaman sweated for

    I saw the weary miner
    Scrubbing coal dust from his back
    I heard his children cryin
    Got no coal to heat the shack

    But the banks are made of marble
    With a guard at every door
    And the vaults are stuffed with silver
    That the miner sweated for

    I've seen my brothers working
    Throughout this mighty land
    l prayed we'd get together
    And together make a stand

    Then we'd own those banks of marble
    With a guard at every door
    And we'd share those vaults of silver
    That we have sweated for
     
  20. Dubious

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    Let me ask you, You know the GOP back to Phil Gramm in your lifetime is the root of this, you know Dick Army and his SuperPac run the Tea Party, you don't like Obama because he has to deal with the system, because well, he is the President even though he can't get a National Mother's Milk Day past the Republican filibuster, you have to know that for every plausible Ron Paul idea there are three crazy ones including paranoid racist ones, because everyone on here shows you daily.... OWS is at least a populist movement.... where are you looking to turn? The Hightop Grumpy Post Party, where criticism of anything civilized people might actually achieve with organization, cooperation and governance is the only aim?

    Give us your plan son.

    When you go jumping up and and down about the 'left' this and the 'left' that, organizing violence, you are mistaken. The violence is out of control, the violence is a response to not having a a voice. When the left has 'leaders' they are usually non-violent, intellectual, and utterly fail at ruthlessness. It's the failure to counter the ruthless right that leads to violence.
     
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