Amen Moe, you really contributing to this thread. Can't believe what other people here posted, this thread makes me really sad.
I guess I'm comparing the video to all forms. ....but just for ****s and giggles, What would your kid have to do for you to go as far as hitting him/her? and which form would you use on himher?
If you spank them as tikes, then you wouldnt have half the problems in their teens... Disrespect to adults, talking back, cursing, and things of that nature entitles me to give my son/daughter whippings of ass destruction... These are the roots of future behavior problems... So nip it , so it doesnt manifest into erratic behavior later...
That was not "discipline" that was a savage beating. Maybe some of your fathers beat you to that extent, perhaps you feel that in spite of that, or even because of it you turned out o.k. Please do a little research before you extend the same "love" to your children. Violence never begets anything but more violence. I don't really believe corporal punishment is a useful tool, but that is irrelevant to this discussion, this is a beating not a spanking. If your dad did worse to you, then you were a victim of child abuse, I am glad you got through it...but please don't repeat the cycle of abuse with your own kids. Anger issues can be treated, children can be adequately punished by having privileges taken away etc. There is nothing "o.k" about the treatment shown in this video, "the beating is o.k but the language is bad"...."what he did was o.k., but he did it in the wrong spirit" are both wrong, this is child abuse captured on video, which is why is is making international headlines. Trying to minimize it because of our own childhoods is the reason these things continue. People who defend this, I am not saying that your fathers were bad people. But this is a bad thing, and in 2011 we know better and there is no need for it.
...are because the parents suck at raising kids. If your kid cusses you out....you ****ing deserve it.
I'm not angry at those people who think what this man did was ok. I just feel they are misguided in their perspective because they were disciplined in similar ways as children and now see no harm in it. The things we learn the hard way stick with us for life. Maybe you think you're ok now, but then again maybe you're leading a pedestrian existence because you chose to accept the things your parents beat into you as a child and now you're too shy and inhibited to really take the risks necessary to succeed in life. Don't misunderstand that to mean that everyone who was beat as a child has suffered for it in some way, but also don't be so naive to think that some of the shortcomings in your life weren't at least in some way related to how your parents chose to introduce you to life as an adult.
At the risk of repeating myself, is it just me or are there definitely some people who are missing the whole "his daughter has cerebral palsy" thing? Like, even if you're okay with using corporal punishment to discipline a child (and that's not something I agree with), don't you sort of have to draw the line if the kid is handicapped? Or am I just being ignorant or oversensitive or something?
i don't think you're being oversensitive to suggest it's not the greatest idea to go freaking apecrap crazy on your daughter who suffers from cerebral palsy. holy crap, i can't believe this is a real discussion.
You can run that woulda/coulda/shoulda scenario both ways. Maybe if your parents did beat you, you'd have done better in your life. *shrug*
A horrible thing for a father to do. I was disciplined as a child but never beaten and I'm grateful for that. My only question is why would the daughter wait 7 years to post this video?
Which is exactly the point. There is a line there with children. They need a certain amount of discipline and each one needs different amounts. Either way, failing to toe the line will result in a warped worldview.
If your argument is that each child responds to various stimuli differently and it's up to the parents to find out what works for them, I totally agree. If it's a blanket statement that parents should never spank their kids then I do not. Some kids don't respond to corporal punishment so there's no point in just hitting them. It's not supposed to be for you to vent your frustrations. So do time outs if it work. But also spank if it works. Just do what it takes to make sure your kid doesn't grow up to be the entitled brats we see nowadays. Because we've had a generation of mainly 'go to timeout, little johnny' and we know that doesn't always work either.
This was not a spanking. I think one can fairly assert that beating your child does not accomplish anything of redeeming value.
That is precisely what I'm inferring. It is up to the parent to choose the correct form of discipline that will result in positive reinforcement, not beat the living **** out of them because they lost 10 grand betting on the Patriots.
He went overboard to be sure. But I counted them. He hit her 14 times, her mother came in for one pop, and then he gave her 3 more. She would have had less if she didn't resist. Sorry if I disagree with the rest of you, or maybe you feel sorry for me and mine, but I don't think what he did was child abuse.
