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Tyreke Evans

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by TheGreat, Oct 29, 2011.

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  1. A_3PO

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    Actually, the kid gloves that are used on Reke definitely tick Cousins off (and other members of the team). Cousins can't understand why everyone is so quick to condemn him for mistakes while nobody says anything about Evans. This was written about a couple of times last year.

    We all know Cousins' mistakes were very different, but maybe not so much in his mind. I believe the Kings will be forced to decide between the two and will choose Cousins if he can keep a lid on it. Those two guys are a terrible match.
     
  2. da_juice

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    That could be the case, maybe that's the reason they got Jimmer, Salmons, and Thorton. All their skillsets are similar to Evans.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Evans sucks, he is just a better version of Twill.

    DD
     
  4. javal_lon

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    Evans is taking names ....
     
  5. TheGreat

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    :rolleyes:

    1 of 4 players to avg 20-5-5 in his rookie year, that's not sucking.

    On 46% shooting too, not too bad, he is a jumpshot away from having the best offensive arsenal in the game.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    I guess you don't remember (or maybe didn't realize to start with) what a joke the last part of his rookie season was. It was totally geared to make sure he got his 20-5-5 and helped turn him into the selfish, entitled player he is now.

    I was on the Tyreke Evans bandwagon for a good part of his rookie season but then he took a (selfish) turn for the worse and hasn't been the same since. Westphal needs to be fired and replaced with a coach who will impose his will on Reke.
     
  7. RedRedemption

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    DD is somewhat spot on, he is a better version of T-Will.
    But Evans does not suck. His numbers are ballooned because he is on a bad team, but he does not suck.
     
  8. Easy

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    You guys beat me to it. Tyreke is Stevie Part II.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    Saying a guy sucks is harsh as he is a very talented player. He's just young, raw, and kind of flawed.

    First of all, he is NOT a PG. Taking him away from the PG position will be the smartest thing that his next coach does for his game. The guy is a scorer period.

    He still has a high ceiling, but it's up for him to stay healthy and work at his game.

    1) He really needs some semblance of a perimeter game. Nowadays with zone defense and ability to sag off of players to double team, you really can't penetrate at will and expect to score, and score on a consistent basis. We saw how ridiculously inefficient Rose was when he was forced to be a perimeter player, and Reke isn't anywhere as good.

    2) He needs to learn how to "slow" the game down. Most young players play at one speed, and that was Reke. He'll learn

    3) He needs to play defense. But you can say that for every young player.

    He still has a bright future. He just needs to be humble, work hard at his game, and he'll have a place in this league as a star.
     
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    What are you talking about. I guess being planters fasciitis for the whole season and playing through it is somehow "selfish". The two seasons I have spent watching him, I never saw any selfishness or sense of entitlement. I'll admit that his numbers were inflated his rookie year but that's because the coach pretty much gave him free reign on the team to help him develop. I will also agree that he needs to develop a jumpshot. His speeding incident was the only significant mistake he's made during his career and he's already paid the price.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    He sucks, the guy is a ball hogging me first, non winner as a player.

    Numbers are meaningless unless you are adding another W to the stat line.

    Here is how Evans mind works:

    "me, me, me, me, me...hotdog, me, me me"

    DD
     
  12. A_3PO

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    You have actually watched him a lot and are asking that question? To each his own opinion, I guess.

    Forget off the court stuff. I'm not holding that against him. I"ll also give the guy some credit for playing through the plantar fasciitis last season. The problem is Evans' actual talent doesn't measure up to how he perceives himself, which is why he plays like he does. The master enabler is Paul Westphal, who should be cut loose. Either that or he's got to take control of the offense away from Reke if the Kings want to win more than 25 games. His understanding of the game has to open up if he is to approach elite status. I doubt he gets there.
     
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    Not disagreeing but would this even work, though?

    I just have a hard time imagining a coach successfully attempting to get this guy to play off the ball and take a more team-oriented approach.

    Definitely not a job I'd like to have as a coach.
     
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    He probably wouldn't even be any good in that role, frankly. I think that's the big problem, he's really only effective when he's able to dominate the ball, but not efficient enough in that role to be the #1 guy on a good team. I think he'd be best as an instant-offense sixth man off the bench.

    Of course, if he really develops his jumper, it could be another story.
     
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    So he has been in the league for 2 years, one where he played very injured, and you're saying he sucks. C'mon man.

    He's a young player, who still has a room to grow both physically and mentally. He's playing on a bad team, with a bad coach. Most young players make their growth in their 3rd year, which is NEXT year (if there is a season).

    If he has a few more seasons like he has, then he'll just be a mediocre player. but the guy has talent. "Sucks" should reserve for guys like Kwame Brown.


    Coaching is very underrated. A great coach can do great things for a player. Look at what Thibs did with the Bulls defensively. The Bulls had the same players under Del Negro and they were never anywhere close. A good coach can hopefully bring out the potential greatness in Tyreke.


    The guy is entering year 3. It's hard to judge his future now. We'll have a better idea if he does/doesn't develop further in the next few years. If he develops a jumper/mid-range game, he would totally elevate himself to another level as he is already one of the best penetrators in the league.
     
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    Steve was better, and not nearly as selfish...

    There are similarities though...
     
  17. Easy

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    Taking control of the offense away from Reke would make him look like Francis under JVG. I am not disagreeing about firing Westphal. But the Kings need to trade Tyreke while there might still be some dumb GMs out there still think he's a franchise player.
     
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    If you compare build and athleticism, Evans is a lot like Dwade. However, there are two things that separate the two, Dwade has a very high BBall IQ and, he plays D seriously. Evans just ball hogs and chucks the ball a lot, he doesn't play D and he makes his teammates worse. The Kings had two really good scorers/finishers in Landry and Cousins at one point, and Evans just wasted it by forcing up the most ridiculous shots.

    A lot of people talk about him having "talent" or whatever but the thing is if the player is dumb, then there is no redemption for him. There have been a lot of cases of players sucking at something, and then working on it and improving but I've never heard of a talented but dumb ballhog becoming a superstar in the league. People bring up the steve francis comparison a lot but at least during steve's case, the handcheck rule was present so guys like him who just dribbled the air out of the ball and drove in the paint had a niche role. Nowadays if you can't create plays for your teammates then you should be a dead eye shooter to be productive on the floor, and he can't do any of those.
     
  19. Obito

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    Lol Tyreke Evans does not suck... If he put in work shooting the 3 ball, being more efficient and facilitating he could be a top 15 player in the league. You could say that's a lot of things to work on but Derrick Rose did it and he won the MVP this season. The talent is certainly there.
     
  20. Easy

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    He might be able to work on the 3. But facilitating (just like intelligence) is inborn talent. Slim chance he'll ever get it. Again, ask Stevie Francis.
     

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