I've deliberately stayed out of this. I'm tired of arguing the obvious against people that are clueless. Some of the stuff being beaten to death here during the lockout has almost exhausted my interest in the NBA Dish. Let this thing end so we can talk about basketball. Right now, the Dish is worse than the GARM (which is mercifully quiet).
It is so easy to sound obnoxious. The true question for a fan of basketball is this: Does popularity in any way correlate with the game of basketball? Does it change the rules? Does it change how far and wide the court is? Does it change the size of the basketball itself? Does it impact the way a ball bounces on the court? Nope. Will it affect the number of people in the stadium you see on TV or when you're there watching your favorite team live? Sure. Will it affect the prices of the seats you bought or the price of the food in the stadiums? Sure. But that's about it. That's why it bothers me to see people complain or bring about the amount of people watching the NBA compared to its greatest eras. Does it really matter to you? Seriously. Or is it a factor that you consider when you watch the NBA... "Oh, there are only 10 million viewers watching the NBA now, I don't want to watch this sport." Pretty silly if you ask me. Now if you're a fan of one of these superstars and all of a sudden they decide to quit the game because of purely financial reasons-- (how realistic is this anyway?) Then it's most likely the game of hoops is better without them. Basketball deserves better. Truth.
I guess I don't understand how a deal ever gets done if the deal is going to get worse from the owners because of mounting losses over canceled games? if the whole season is cancelled, then they are negotiating a CBA for the next season forward while trying to recoup their losses for an entire season lost? how does that work out for the players? it seems like they are going to end up with less money out of the deal than if they just took the 50-50 split in the current deal. am i wrong?
This is precisely your problem. Do you know what happened after the highest rated finals in NBA history? A lockout. Do you know what happened after the lockout? The viewer count dropped. You are attributing every single viewer loss to the NBA as a result of Michael Jordan leaving, which is flat out stupid. Prime time television, availability of online streaming, the technology boom are TONS of other factors were reasons for the drop in viewers.
You aren't wrong. The owners have the leverage and are holding a gun to the union's head. In a negotiation, when the party with leverage knows they have it and decides to use it, the other side has only one logical choice: Swallow pride and accept what they offer. Waiting only prolongs the damage to both sides. At worst, the stronger side will reduce their offer to either punish the weaker side or recoup losses from a prolonged dispute.
Yahoo is reporting that they are gonna bring back mediator George Cohen back to hopefully get to the finish line.
This and... this is correct. Hopefully Derek Fisher is beginning to see the light, hence the rift with Billy Hunter.
What was the actual split when you take into consideration what the owners were allowed to take off the top? Anyone have that data? DD
Can't remember where I read it, but it was 51-49 in favor of the players...and if they went down to 52.5% of BRI, it would equal to 53-47 in the owners favor.
I am not sure how that would work because the owners are not taking anything off the top in the new deal, iirc. So, if that is the case, the players cut would actually go up at 52.5% over what they got before....no wonder the owners are balking. DD
This is bull****! Why they haven't scheduled any meetings this week just boggles my mind. It seems like both sides don't have any sense of urgency to get a deal done. They have 95% of this deal done and are twiddling their thumbs waiting for the other 5% to magically appear or something? I should be watching my Rockets tonight!
A great article on how player agents and hardline owners are impeding the process. http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/...night-labor-fight-continues-because-of-agents
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...w-wojnarowski_nba_lockout_billy_hunter_110111
Yeah just read that article. Would be interesting to see how many NBA players would vote for a 50/50 BRI split. It was reported Kobe and Fisher were for it while players like KG and Paul Pierce were against it. I'd say more would be for it, especially the rank and file players.
I said they should decertify back when it started, and Battier knew Hunter was screwing around when he asked him if he would work for free. This deal will get done, and Hunter will be gone. DD
Maybe I misunderstood you. Those numbers were percentage of net income - meaning 57% BRI was equal to 51% of what the league was making in total (since BRI is a pre-set, arbitrary figure that factors in only certain elements of league income). If the players went to 52.5% BRI, they'd be taking less than half of what the league actually made in total.
