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T.O. Why not?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by tharges, Oct 26, 2011.

  1. DonnyMost

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    Not saying that I'm all for the Texans bringing in TO, but it really wouldn't be a gamble at all.

    If you bring him in and it isn't working out, then just cut him. It is, by definition, low risk and potentially high reward.

    That said, I've torn my ACL... Obviously I'm no TO, but four months of recovery time doesn't seem like a enough. Personally, I'd pass.
     
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    Yes. Think of it more of a classroom, where one kid can absolutely be completely disruptive and can influence other kids, etc.

    It's not a coincidence that he has left every team with a smoldering pile of ash where a bridge used to be. He's a selfish egomaniac made worse by the fact he's also delusional. Derrick Mason is a much better WR at this point in their careers.
     
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    Hey guys! No teams want him, no teams showed up to his workout, press say his leg was atrophied, he is a mental midget and has been let go from every team he's been apart and he's almost 40 but after all that - all that evidence to the contrary - I think we should sign him! What does every front office know that I don't? I read the INTERNET! DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP
     
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    Yeah, but he still has a rating of over 90 on Madden! The Texans clearly don't want to win.
     
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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/27/recent-911-call-t-o-was-attempting-suicide/
     
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    You almost feel pity . .
     
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    Has any player EVER had a good season the same year they tore their ACL. Most players are a shadow of their former selves the next season. Usually takes close to 2 years to get back to 100% and he's almost 40. And he's a cancer. And the Texans usually won't sign jackasses. And he's a ball dropping fool. And he would go out of his way to have passes thrown to him instead of Andre Johnson. And try go have passes thrown to him instead of having the ball handed to Arian Foster. It's hard to imagine why any time would consider signing him this year. Which, is probably why he's out begging for a job.
     
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    Winning Attitude? What exactly has he accomplished that makes you say that? As far as I can recall all his teams have choked in the playoffs. The Philly team that went to the super-bowl did it with him injured for the most part. The guy was a really good receiver at his prime but I am not sure exactly what winning attitude he has shown. Crying in front of the cameras and trying to defend Tony Romo after they choked in the playoffs ,two weeks after he complained about Romo and Witten being friends etc is not a winning attitude. Not to mention the whole issue with Mcnabb in philly. Did you misspell winning but wanted to say whining? because that's what the guy does. No thanks I will pass. I prefer people that play football not soap opera actors. He is way past his prime and at this point I am not sure If he is actually better than Walter.
     
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    Dropped
     
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    So then your hopes are cast on the current core that we have to take us? There is little risk in involved if it doesnt work than cut his ass. The issue i have is we never go after high profile guys that are available for little or nothing in return. Lloyd being an example. Is it that big of a gamble to sign TO or Moss when he came to town? The rumor was Moss came here and they elected not to sign him either, AJ is in his prime he needs someone besides Jones lining up opposite of him.
     
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    I don't get the whole "there is little risk" argument. True, there is little risk but there is also little reward. The guy can't play anymore. Why even bother to take the risk?

    There is little risk in signing ME to play 3rd string kicker, so why don't the Texans do it? I'll take the 250K.
     
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    Tell me, what makes you think you know better then all 32 NFL teams, each with their own GM and scouting department? Even with arguably the best agent in the history of sports peddling his broken wheels he couldn't get a practice squad invite!
     
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    I am not going to argue for signing TO, but I hate this argument of "32 NFL teams passed on him" and your ending statement about the practice squad makes it even worse.

    1. 32 NFL teams didn't make a decision to pass on him based on medical or production. Teams pass on players for a variety of reasons before they ever get to considering medical/production. Perhaps they are set at WR with veterans and young guys so they don't want to give up a roster spot. They pass on an evaluation because all they could offer would a job as a 4th or 5th WR and know it's not even worth it. They don't even consider it because of bad history with the player. They don't think a street FA could learn their offense in time for him to make a contribution. Etc. etc. By the time you weed through legit reasons to avoid on a guy, you are probably down to only 5 or 6 teams that are interested in "Hypothetical Veteran WR" before you even consider his injury status. None of that indicates how all 32 teams feel about his as a talent. It's very possible that the Packers believe TO is still a capable #2 WR but they have no desire to cut one of their productive, cheap, young WRs and if they did have that desire they don't believe that a guy off the street could learn their offense in time for it to make a difference.

    2. Practice Squad line was pure garbage. When Drew Brees was a free agent do you think there were 30 teams who weren't even interested in him as a practice squad guy because they didn't offer him that role? Come on. Teams don't bother offering that kind of role to players who there is no shot of accepting.

    Edit: All that said, I don't see much sense in signing TO for all the reasons mentioned in this thread and the extra ones I put in this post. The guy is coming off injury. Serious injury. Let's go ahead and agree he's not going to be 100%. Add to that it will take him time to learn this offense, which is not as simple as most. Add to that he is the type of player who has always struggled when he hasn't gotten the ball consistently throughout a game. Does that sound like the type of player who is a good fit for this offense? Where we will run the ball a lot and then will have at least 2 targets on the field ahead of him on the chart? Add to that he is a player who drops a lot of passes. Does that a guy with a drop problem who needs to get a volume amount of targets sound like a good fit for a role where he is probably only going to get targeted 1-3 times a game?

    Not worth investigating, regardless of whether he can actually play a little still. If he can't be explosive TO of old where he could be a a legit #2 receiving option, he really doesn't fit.

    Edit 2: Also want to add, people undervalue roster spots when they say things like "no risk." To bring in a street FA you have to cut someone. You are talking about people who play special teams for you, are probably on cheap contracts, etc. Giving them up to add a moderately productive player is not something most teams do. It's not as simple as "Is WR A a better receiver than WR F." You have to ask "What does WR F do on special teams? How many years do I have him under control for? Is he cheap?" You don't throw those guys away just because.
     
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    Yes. They finished 1st ('09), 4th ('10) and are currently 6th in passing offense. I continue to be at a loss why WR has suddenly become an issue for far too many fans. There is absolutely nothing wrong with our offense, beyond, of course, the injury to AJ.
     
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    1. Round about way in saying all 32 teams passed on him. Great insight.

    2. Pure garbage response. TO would gladly accept a practice squad invite. He has no other choice now if he wants to continue his career.
     
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    i'm amazed that people are serious about this...just completely amazed that people get continually fooled
     
  20. justtxyank

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    You are crazy if you think TO would take a practice squad invite. You are crazy if you think teams would even offer a player of his stature a practice squad invite. This isn't MLB where teams offer out minor league deals like candy to veterans.
     

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