1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Four best players in the league against the 5 worst

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by panamamyers, Aug 20, 2009.

  1. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,803
    Likes Received:
    20,461
    I think the 5 worst would win. The deal is that any NBA player is a good basketball player. Think how hard it is for someone to even make a college squad. Out of all the players in the nation very few make a college squad. And then only the very best of those end up in the NBA.

    I think the 5 worst are still skilled enough to beat the 4 best. They just need to utilize their numbers. Someone will always be open, and almost any NBA player can hit a good percentage of open shots. They will always be able to double someone on defense without leaving others open.
     
  2. sw847

    sw847 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2007
    Messages:
    1,341
    Likes Received:
    180
    lol i find it funny how so many people have posted that hayes does not belong in the worst five, which the op already stated that he thought was hayes purely off the top of his head and does not feel he should be their either. lol

    Anyway...I feel that the worst five would win. Think about it...yes a hayes or marks would not be able to hit a semi-contested mid range jumper, but imagine a line up of 2 guards and 2 small forwards along with hayes. that would creat major problems, even if the top four plays zone. 4 shoots on the outside with hayes setting picks and flashing to the paint...hard to D up.
     
  3. Rocket86

    Rocket86 Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2009
    Messages:
    1,728
    Likes Received:
    6
    With numbers on the offense would not necessary mean it is an advantage. If the 5 worst can not shoot beyond 5 feet then a zone will totally kill them. On defense, the worst team could zone but individual skills of the best could break the zone or they could just start hitting from the perimeter to open the defense.
     
  4. panamamyers

    panamamyers Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2000
    Messages:
    1,627
    Likes Received:
    1,733
    Here's the thing.
    If you gave Ryan Bowen a ball and let him take 100 three pointers before practice with no one else on the court, I'd be willing to bet he'd make at least 50% of them.

    I'll never forget watching a newscast once that had Sleepy Floyd in the background during a practice hoisting up 3's. The dude made about 12 in a row. This wasn't any sort of special occurence I am positive. Did anyone see the Deshawn Stevenson and Gilbert Arenas competition at practice?

    NBA players....every last one of them are excellent shooters with no one on them. I'd be willing to bet that in a 15 minute quarter the 5 man team could score about 40-45 points. It's be up to the 4 man team to score more than that.
     
  5. T-2

    T-2 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2002
    Messages:
    735
    Likes Received:
    8
    I'd love to see this during All-Star Weekend. I'd pay to see it, probably cos it'll never happen.

    As long as there were adequate breaks/substitutions to keep the four fresh (because they'd be running their tails off the entire time), the four would have no problem winning simply because the five worst players are going to be really, really bad/slow, and have major holes in their game. I would question their ability to find the open man and even then, doubt that man would shoot at an extremely high clip. Also, there would probably be some poor free throw shooters one of the four could foul if their defense wasn't cutting it.

    Now, if you make it the tenth best players on NBA teams, that's a lot more interesting. Now you have guys who excel at one skill and stink at almost everything else (i.e. Novak) or are simply below average across the board. In that case, the five should win easily most of the time because at least they should be able to make good use of the open man, though I still think the four could win one on rare occasion.
     
  6. Shroopy2

    Shroopy2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2003
    Messages:
    16,238
    Likes Received:
    2,019
    For the 4 best to conceivably beat the 5 worst, I think there would have to be a big height advantage for the 4 best, and big lack of height with a big lack of talent for the 5 worst. Plus it'd depend on the rules, organized or streetball.

    Dwyane Wade at point guard,
    Dwight Howard
    Lebron
    then a tall lengthy athletic agile guy, lets say Kevin Garnett.

    vs

    Dan Dickau
    Royal Ivey
    Sun Yue
    Michael Ruffin
    Mark Madsen


    Yeah thats the kinda craptacular thats necessary, goodness
     
  7. jcole787

    jcole787 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2011
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    0
    definately doable depending on choice
     
  8. infinitidoug

    infinitidoug Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,219
    Likes Received:
    26
    mentioning Hayes as a "worst player"...that's a paddlin
     
    1 person likes this.
  9. mvpcrossxover

    mvpcrossxover Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    Messages:
    31,931
    Likes Received:
    15,834
    how did u dig up a 2yrs old thread? :confused:
     
  10. Lurch

    Lurch Live Wilder.

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2008
    Messages:
    1,665
    Likes Received:
    855
    My friend, who played 3A basketball, always said our team could shut out Lebron and Kobe in a 2 v. 5.



    He does a lot of drugs.
     
  11. da_juice

    da_juice Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Messages:
    9,315
    Likes Received:
    1,070
    If it was 3 on 5, then it might work.

    I don't see 4 on 5 working, especially because most of the top players in the league need doubling teaming.

    But if the bad team has a two man advantage, they could play man to man with a rim protecter in perimeter defender to harass the guard/wingman.

    Assuming, the bad players have some understanding of spacing, and a guy or two who can shoot threes, maybe they win.
     
  12. fadeaway

    fadeaway Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    14,704
    Likes Received:
    1,193
    Brian Scalabrine?
     
  13. goodbug

    goodbug Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2002
    Messages:
    2,863
    Likes Received:
    32
    If you pick 5 worst NBA players that can't shoot, maybe the 4 best players stands a chance. Otherwise, think of putting a Chinese national team against the 4 players team. Remove Yi Jianlian, none of them are of NBA caliber. But they'd beat a 4 players team easily.
     
  14. AstroRocket

    AstroRocket Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 1999
    Messages:
    11,814
    Likes Received:
    458
    I didn't check the date of the posts until I started reading the comments about Hayes and his limitations and they made no sense to me.

    It really brought to light the improvements Chuck has made to his game over the past couple of years. Good to know hard work does pay.
     
  15. Jontro

    Jontro Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2010
    Messages:
    36,336
    Likes Received:
    25,489
    Of course the scrub team can win.

    The Heat have lost games against some really bad teams. It all depends how well the players play together.
     
  16. supdudes

    supdudes Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2009
    Messages:
    2,530
    Likes Received:
    126
    Man where was Brian Scalabrine....On the best players list??

    White mamba b****es ;)
     
  17. Aleron

    Aleron Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    11,685
    Likes Received:
    1,113
    A Dunk? Howard could start in the grandstands and rotate to a bench warmer going at the hoop, Lebron isn't too bad at blindside blocks either.
     
  18. VBG

    VBG Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2009
    Messages:
    7,990
    Likes Received:
    307
    Pretty much everyone in the NBA would drain open shots.

    Rondo who has a terrible jump shot was dominating HORSE when he had to shoot 3s.
     
  19. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    21,407
    Likes Received:
    34,594
    In streetball, it might be an interesting game. They are naturally disorganized so guys wouldn't know how to double team correctly or beat a zone.

    In an NBA game, you can't play 4 v 5. I don't care how bad the other 5 are, the 5 man team will win. If you are in the NBA you are good, very, very good, even the benchwarmers.

    Now if you specifically built a team to lose, meaning abysmal shooters, then maybe, but there are few guys in the NBA that can't make 60% of open jumpers. And those guys than can't shoot, are usually spectacular at everything else.
     
  20. MambaJoe

    MambaJoe Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2009
    Messages:
    2,294
    Likes Received:
    104
    Why is Chuck Hayes in the worst players in the league? Are you kidding me? You wouldn't have a top 5 worst player in the league starting and actually doing well..
     

Share This Page