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  1. mc mark

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    Uh, maybe because the banks (corporations) now control government?
     
  2. Hightop

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    "Timmy made me do it."
     
  3. mc mark

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    It's a beautiful day! You should go outside and play.

    later freaks!
     
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    How did you feel about the video CX posted?
     
  5. Air Langhi

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    Without the government most of those banks would be BK and CX would most likely be out of a job.
     
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    I'm curious if you agree or disagree with the ideas presented in the video.
     
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    I didn't watch the video because it goes against my policy of accepting video from MSNBC, CNN, Fox, or YouTube as evidence of anything at all. If you will write your observations, I will be happy to read them and make comment, but I won't contribute to the punditocracy.
     
  8. robbie380

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    Ummmmmm.........seriously?

    Can I put the video on Xtube to get you to watch it?
     
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    Ummmmm, yes. I believe that the 24 hour "news" networks are a big part of what is wrong with our political process.

    You can summarize the points in the article and then I will be happy to read and comment. Alternately, you could find an article by a REAL journalist (one who publishes the printed word) and I will be happy to read and comment on it.
     
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    I don't understand the "logic" behind giving print more credibility than TV. Whether the message is true or not does not depend on the medium with which it is transmitted.
     
  11. robbie380

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    Oh for ****s sake...this can't be real.

    Do you watch video blogs? Or videos with people's opinions? Or documentaries? Or anything with moving pictures and sound? Or do you request everything in written format?
     
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    Anyhow I'll submit to your strange wishes. The video was Peter Schiff's commentary on where the Occupy protesters should be directing their frustration. He said instead of focusing on Wall Street it should be directed at govt and the crony capitalism it has fostered. He stated it wasn't capitalism that failed. Instead, it is govt policies that supported failing, risky, and abusive businesses and allowed them to survive rather than fail like they should have. Further, he went on to note that students wouldn't be burdened with excessive student loan debt if the govt wasn't backing all of the student loans. Massive inflation in college tuition has resulted from this.
     
  13. GladiatoRowdy

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    Print is easier to fact check and it is harder to just make s*** up in print because of it. Pundits of all stripes are less interested in truth and more interested in viewership and, by extension, advertising profits.
     
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    Television and movies are for entertainment, IMO. I watch some television, but avoid the "news" networks for the reasons listed above. If you want me to consider it as evidence of anything, you are barking up the wrong tree because it is just too tedious to take notes during a video and then go fact check the pundit's accuracy.
     
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    Hey guys does anyone have a good real journalist (Richard Justice or Skip Bayless preferably) play by play transcript link for the Texans game today?
     
  16. robbie380

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    Who in the world takes notes when you can hit pause? Did you give up on trying to learn anything via technology?

    You are coming off as absurdly closed minded. You are really going to be disappointed if video education takes off due to amazing resources like KhanAcademy.org which uses youtube to educate.
     
  17. Hightop

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    Preferably done with quill on parchment.
     
  18. GladiatoRowdy

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    Thanks.

    This is the first of the reasons that I dislike pundits, virtually everything they do is opinion and they rarely back up their commentary with verifiable facts, as I will outline below.

    Personally, I think it should be directed at both the government AND business for the crony capitalism that business has paid government to perpetuate.

    The problem we are having right now is that half of the 99% (the TEA Party and their sympathizers) are being convinced that the problem is government. The other half of the 99% (OWS sympathizers) are being convinced that the problem is business. All of this is being done to distract the 99% from the cold hard fact that the ACTUAL problem is collusion between government and business to the exclusion of We, the People.

    I would agree with this, but would add on that those government policies were lobbied for and demanded by those businesses. This can happen because the government is more responsive to big business than to We, the People. Again, the government isn't the entirety of the problem and doing away with or severely reducing the power of government will not solve the problem. The problem will be solved when government is more interested in the plight of We, the People than big business.


    Massive inflation in college tuition is just as much a result of conservatives reducing government support of public institutions. As recently as 1980, the University of Houston received significantly more than half of its operating revenues from the State of Texas. Today, that number is close to 25% and dropping every biennium. This has resulted in UH raising tuition and fees to cover the revenue shortfalls without negatively impacting student success.

    As a result, students have to take on far more student loan debt than in previous decades so that wealthy people can have more money in their bank accounts. In this case, government is a huge problem in that they continue reducing support for higher education, which forces the student to take out more student loan debt in order to acquire an education.

    I haven't heard or seen a single shred of evidence that government backed student loans have caused tuition to increase. I hear conservatives saying it regularly, but when asked for anything approaching proof, I hear nothing but crickets. That, in a nutshell, is why I don't accept garbage like this video as evidence of anything at all. The commentator just throws out a bunch or red meat knowing that his audience will eat it up without investigating or thinking about the claims.
     
  19. GladiatoRowdy

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    As I said, television is for entertainment, not news. Unless the Texans will be talking about the Public Option, I will watch the game on TV once I am done with my homework.
     
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    Two Occupy Boston members have been arrested on drug charges, Boston police said yesterday.

    Bostonians Isaac Bell, 34, and Charlene Dumont, 31, were both charged with distribution of a class A drug (heroin) and possession with intent to distribute a class A drug within 1,000 feet of a school zone, police say.

    The 6-year-old child who was living with them in a tent is now staying with family members, police said.

    The arrests were made Friday after police said they received “multiple reports of drug activity in and around” Occupy Boston’s Rose Kennedy Greenway encampment.

    Also this weekend, protest-minded vandals made their mark on 21 downtown buildings, police said.
     

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