NYPD probably more aware of cameras now. This dude would be a load to bring down. Want to avoid YouTube moments, especially involving a uniformed marine. He might have been an annoying broken record, but the riot crew did back down. Good for him.
How embarrassing. If you're going to represent the Corps, wear the uniform right instead of looking like a nasty ass civilian.
this has been posted twice in the Occupy Wall Street thread. why keep making excuses for posting D&D stuff in Hangout?
Some people (like me) don't read the D&D most of the time. Thus I would have never seen it posted. But yes, the topic itself it D&D material.
who the hell puts their ribbons on their cammies. Dude did this so he can be center of attention. That's all.
Lame- was expecting a brawl. And although I respect Marines and all of our military, I don't think they teach them how to take down 30 guys at once, hand-to-hand. If this wasn't staged, it shows how cops: 1. Are conditioned to respect the uniform. 2. Can be intimidated.
You guys are entirely missing his point. Yes, it is repetitive and not the most eloquent rant, but he is challenging the police to silence him, and they won't, simply because he has served. His honor trumps their synthetic brand, and that's the only way to one-up the ego-mafia. NYPD is, from my experiences, one of the most tolerant police forces around. It's not about them. They are just sort of the object of the projection. He is merely exercising his first amendment right, like many other protestors, however since he is a uniformed service man, the cops won't touch him. If he was any other occupy wall street jack-off, who should have the same right to express themselves, they would have been tased bro, bagged up and tagged with some bullsh!t charge like disturbing the peace or disorderly conduct. If I put my life on the line to spend a year in deadly combat defending what I left as a "free" society, and returned to as this corrupted, crumbling mockery of free-expression and democratic representation, I would rebel against the oppression of basic domestic freedoms, too. Again, this is about police, but not the NYPD, in this instance. If you did this in the Boston, Houston, Chicago protests, and were not a uniformed veteran, you would get silenced. The best way for him to demonstrate that prevailing injustice, omnipresent upon his peer citizens whose freedoms he risked his life to defend, was by example. It's not about what he says, because he says virtually nothing. It's about his, and your, right to say it. The interaction and dissolution of the force says it all for him.
I guess I missed something. He is challenging the police to silence him and they aren't. Are all the other protesters being silenced? I was under the impression that there were plenty of them marching, blocking traffic, etc. without getting arrested.
I'm not sure about the immediate circumstances of the video. Like I said, these officers were just the object of his projection. All together, he was testing the force, and they handled it pretty commendably, but I think even admitting that points to the heart of the problem. The fact that we all expect him to get tased and arrested, speaks volumes for the injustices that occur daily in this country, with regard to the first and fourth amendments.
Although he makes a couple good points, the "marine" looks like he's embarrassing his peers. Like someone said, wear the uniform correctly or not at all. But I guess he made his points.
I don't understand why people expect him to get tased and arrested. Was he breaking the law? Are protesters being tased and arrested left and right? I haven't heard that. I think this is bogus.
He was not breaking the law. We live in a police state. Personal Police Anecdote: Spoiler During SXSW 2011, on the last night, Death From Above 1979 played a secret show that was to be their first in 6 years. Through social media, word of this small event spread rapidly, and demand for entry skyrocketed, as hopefuls lined up as early as noon for a midnight show. The official count inside Beauty Bar was reported at 500 or so, but I saw it for myself, and there were no more than 250, in the gated off backyard stage. This is significant because there were maybe 1500-2500 people lining the alley way all afternoon hopeful to get in, and none of them had a chance. Once the band started playing, the thousand-something-crowd outside erupted as concert crowds do. It was exciting and powerful, and for the first few songs, incredibly cohesive. People were just dancing all up and down the alley, only separated from the performers by a 10 x 30 ft chain link fence which was not attached to anything substantial. And then the mob ripped the fence down. At this point, it becomes chaos. It was written about as a riot, but I can attest personally that it only became one because the crowds were treated like rioters. After the fence came down, the 5 or 6 rent-a-cops inside the venue began blindly, irresponsibly spraying pepper spray into the crowd. This set **** off. I got hit, indirectly, and was blinded for about 40 seconds. After I came to, and could see, I thought, "I just got sprayed. It wasn't that bad. What else are they going to do?" I rushed back into the madness, and the mob had taken a decidedly more incendiary tone. I began videotaping with my iPhone, as the few police played defense, nervously waiting for their backup. Back up arrives, in the form of 10 mounted police officers and riot support. More chaos, more posturing. Kid X throws his beer at a mounted police officer. They single him out and converge on him, tackling him into a parked car and arresting him with as much force as possible. I tape the entire thing, from point blank range. The remaining officers form a perimeter around Kid X's arrest circle, and start grabbing cameras and demanding that everyone delete their footage. I kept rolling. They get to me, and I refused to stop filming. I remind them that I am not breaking any laws, and that I am on public property. Without any further warning, one cop says "I have had enough of you" and two officers grab me, one by each shoulder and pick me up to carry me off. Another officer grabs my phone from my grasp and deletes the video I took, and they start carrying me away. I asked "am I under arrest?" I was told to "Shut the f**k up." I was taken to jail in downtown Austin at around 12:10, and was told I was booked for open container. I was actually booked for public consumption of alcohol. I had NO alcohol in me or on me, I was simply holding up a camera phone. I see the judge and prosecutor three days later, and they ask me what happened. The prosecutor informs me that in the particular part of Austin I was arrested in, they actually allow public consumption, so my charges were dismissed all together. Moral of the story: police arrest the little fish to quell the beast, no matter how insubstantial the reason. Relevance to the thread: everyday in this country, people are arrested just for crossing the authority/ego of a police officer without actually committing a crime. The marine's accusations are in response to these.
^^ Maybe so, but in this case, it looked more like a video of a veteran who was mad about something that had happened before, more than anything happening at the moment. Screaming at the top of his lungs "how can you do this to these people?" when they weren't doing much. I realize people need to stand their ground for their rights, especially these days, but I didn't find the video all that inspiring. As for your 6th street "then they tore the fence down, but only started rioting after being treated like rioters" story..... videos or gtfo.
