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Euroball soft? Dwill doesn't think so

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SPF35, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. RedRedemption

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    Adam Morrison is the next Larry Legend.
    In about three to five years after he trains with Larry Legend, he will be the second coming.

    I kid you not.
     
  2. apollo33

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    Red is very much drunk
     
  3. magnomonkey

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    This list deserves a ban.

     
  4. underrated015

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    dwill is hands down in top 3. hated him when he was with utah cuzz he was so damn good. him alone used to kill us.
    1. cp3
    2. drose
    3. dwill

    4.rondo
    5.westbrooks
    6.nash
     
  5. Johndoe804

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    Really? Worse than Russel Westbrook and Steve Nash?
     
  6. SuperMarioBro

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    Where was he "complaining" about the reffing? All I saw in that article was him saying that he has to adjust.
     
  7. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    In 2007-08 V-SPAN was all Euroleague 2nd team and led the Euroleague in assists (with a whopping 4.8 per game). That should tell you all you need to know about the quality of Euroleague.
     
  8. SPF35

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    Haha, ok who gives...he is number 6 on your list, he is still and elite top pg in the pg, i dont get how people have obsessions(oh hes 7 not 8) point is that will never be settled, but what we do know is he is a damn good and effective pg in the league
     
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    They're soft because their seven footers would rather shoot from the outside than have a post game.
    that's the perception nba players have about the league..then they realize they don't call fouls on the invisible man over there. That's also why 12 first team and second team nba'ers had a hard time closing out Spain.
     
  10. Easy

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    This. A big man not playing in the post is soft in the NBA culture. That and flopping. That's why Nowitzki used to be "soft" in NBA fans' eyes.

    Actually it has been known that Euroleague is more physical than the NBA.
     
  11. 3814

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    I think it looks stupid to say you don't think he is a top 5 NBA PG and then you list him #6... I mean, whoopty-do buddy. Top 5, Top 6. It's subjective and it's close enough. He's an elite PG whether you consider him top 5 or not.
     
  12. conundrum

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    Deron has a better all around game than Westbrook, and leaps and bounds ahead of rondo on offense and nash on defense.

    You must be a hater.
     
  13. Num1RoXfaN

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    I honestly think the celtics need to trade rondo if they want to compete. rondo is good but makes to many mistakes
     
  14. MorningZippo

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    I would go on a limb and say that rondo is the best defensive pg in the league. The only reason I would ever trade him is if I had a better player that also needed the ball. A la Lebron or DWade.
     
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    Here are my projected top PGs for next season. This is not based solely on last season as I'm assuming some guys will improve and others might decliine.

    1 Derrick Rose
    2 CP3
    3 Westbrook
    4 D Will
    5 Rondo
    6 Tony Parker
    7 Nash
    8 John Wall

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    I personally think D Will gets too much love, but I don't see how Nash can be rated ahead of him going forward. Next season, I don't think people will be calling Nash elite; just very good.

    Derrick Rose will take another step and solidify himself at the top. I understand the arguments for CP3, but Rose will improve and CP3 will not.

    Too many people still hold Westbrook's worst playoff games against him because they didn't see OKC play enough last season. I've been talking about him since his rookie year and I'll add one more comment probably nobody here will agree with: I wouldn't be surprised at all to see WB end up a top 5 player in the NBA in a couple of years. If you knew how meteorically he has improved each of his 3 seasons, you would understand why this is not outlandish.

    Tony Parker is the most underrated PG in the NBA. He's an afterthought for many. He isn't super-athletic and doesn't make whiz-bang passes that blow your mind. The guy just gets it done by having a nose for the rim and a deadly mid-range jumper.

    I'm going out on a limb with John Wall. I haven't followed him off the court like other players in past years (KD, WB, Rose, Griffin, etc), but I believe he has the work ethic and mindset for greatness. It shouldn't take too long to see after the season starts.

    Rondo needs to improves his shooting and I doubt he does. Most guys turn the corner before 5 years in the NBA. He either can't or just doesn't want to (enough).
     
  16. Dreamin

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    Are you guys for real? For real? Westbrook? You guys rate Westbrook better than D-Will? Do we watch the same NBA? Did we all watch the same playoffs series last season where he cost his team?

    D-Will is definitely the better PG and defender, Westbrook is a slightly better scorer than D-Will. On a much lower scale of comparison - D-Will = Lowry (superior) / Westbrook = Brooks (inferior).
     
  17. DaGreatest

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    im sorry but wat a dumb statement.. find out he's havin a more difficult time than originally believed and now 'hes not a top 5 pg' very impulse response

    whos better than williams, besides undoubtedly derrick rose-even that can be debated- other than that its a toss up with the other pg's
     
  18. ElPigto

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    I can't believe someone doesn't consider D-Will a top 5 pg. The worst thing is that then he gives us a list of who he believes are the better PG's and he has Rondo in the top 3, lol.
     
  19. jcole787

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    lmao @ the heat this ^ commment is getting, this guy was basing his remark on one season
     
  20. jcole787

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    errr'-body d-will is stupid goood :S....
     

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