[usatoday]Dennis Rodman thinks the NBA players should "bow down"

Rodman speaks the truth.

 

Rodman can't even manage his damn money.
His dumb ass needs to STFU.
Albeit, I do sort of agree with him.

 

It doesn't matter who is right or wrong, all that matters is that the owners have leverage and the players don't. If the union is smart, we will see a new CBA by the end of next week and training camp by the end of the month.

 

I'm not denying his passion. But if he didn't know it was all about the money then how naive is he?

 

What is motivation of the players back then? The money wasn't as good. What is motivation of the Owners? The greater good of the game.

What is your motivation. If some other employer offered you twice as much you would be gone.

 

I'll take Rodman's honesty over the self-righteous Nash and Battier any day.

Players aren't any more or less virtuous than owners, they want the best deal they can get like anybody else.

 

I don't really see how that's relevant. The difference is 3%, not 100%.

A fair comparison would be agreeing to work for 50k per year vs. holding out for 53k per year and not getting paid at all in the meantime.

Truth is, if this lockout lasts much longer, players would have to get more than an extra 3% over the life of the new CBA to make up what they've already lost just this year.

 

The effect of LeBronism.....

 

At first I thought it was just lip service but I really think the players care about the players that are coming after them.


The way NBA players have kids their is a high probability that they will have kids playing in the league someday.

Just look at the Curry family. The deal that Dell Voted on in 1999 Directly effected how much money his son Stephen would make in his first few seasons in the NBA.

If the 1999 lock out guys settled for 50% of the BRI back then the current players would have to settle for a BRI in the low 40s right now.

I think alot of the guys with prominent voices understand that and are willing to fight for a better deal for the future even if they don't reap the benefits of it now.

 

In a league where it's common for players to be completely broke within 5 years of retiring, you really think they're capable of that kind of foresight and selflessness?

You give them far more credit than I ever could.

 

eh most of the players doing the negotiating are the responsible ones that actually stayed in college for a length of time.

 

You are right their are some idiots in the leauge. Hey I will even say their are alot off idiots.

But you do have guys like Jamal Mashburn who invested their money wisely and made their money work for them.

I think the Nba players of our generation as a whole make better financial decisions.
I think the key in this lockout is that the players really moving the agenda are well educated and have made fiscally smart decisions.

In the 80s and Mid 90s Their where for sure alot more Boneheads in the league then versus right now.

I am really curious to see what progress a federal mediator is able to bring about.

I personally think that the BRI should go no lower then 53% but in return the players should except a contract structure similar to the NFL.

I think no more then 50% percent of contract should be fully guaranteed.

Doing that gives teams more roster flexibility which will intern make the league more competitive.

Players who are actively contributing to team success should be the ones drawing the lions share of team payroll.

The Salary Cap and Luxury Tax are Non issues. If the players are guaranteed the same percentage of the revenue under or over the cap they are still going to get payed the same as a whole.


In my dreams I imagine a League where GMs don't have to trade Bad contracts they can just pay the guaranteed portion of a deal and say peace out.

I mean could you imagine if their was a deadline when teams had to get under the cap and players had to either restructure their deals or get cut and try to find a space on another teams roster.

How cool would it be to get Chris Kayman or Brendan Haywood off the waiver wire for a few mill to fill our hole at center instead of having to meet all these stupid stipulations to make a trade work.

 

Rodman is correct. Someone as dominant as MJ earned just 7M a year for most of his career, way less than some of his lesser counterparts and yet it did nothing to dampen his passion for the game. Now, the players think its an insult if they don't get the max, remember Bonzi Well's "they're paying me 25%, I'll give them 25% of my effort" comment?

Anyway the reality is the current NBA salary structure is crippling finances. Most of the teams suck not because they picked bad players, but because they couldn't release their bad players. Toronto, for example, signed Mike James to a huge deal then had to watch helplessly as he started scrubbing it up. Instead of blaming the GMS for being incompetent (which really can't be fixed), the players need to man up and accept partially guaranteed contracts like the NFL. I don't understand how they can keep defending guaranteed contracts, if you don't perform you shouldn't get paid, as simple as that. Rashard Lewis shouldn't have made the max last year. As far as injury goes, the players already make enough in a year to support themselves for the rest of their lives. The minimum is 3M a year, that's more than most people make their entire lifetime.

 

They are representing the interests of 400+ other players.

 

+1. How true this is.

It's like all those people who fall for "20% off!" sales. Idiots. Alot off idiots, in fact.

 

If you saw the playoffs this past year you know how much emotion it had. That was one of the best playoffs in the past 20 years.

 

That's honestly the worse example you could use to show that players care for the game.