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Raiders only had 10 players on field during last play.

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by RocketMania1991, Oct 11, 2011.

  1. JayZ750

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    Hey, race-card guy! Where you've been?

    Matt is clearly lacking a run game. Doesn't make him a p***y, just makes him not a running quarterback. I posted a screengrab at 3 seconds above. Him trying to run it in at that point would be idiotic.

    JJ is at fault, because, well, he's was being idiotic. If it was AJ, he'd get the benefit of the doubt. But JJ had just spent 60 minutes running pour routes and being completely ineffective. Which he proceeded to do again. As the screengrab clearly shows. Defender on his back, ball being thrown to him, he stumbles backwards. That's why he gets the big bucks!

    So if you want to not blame JJ in the same way you can't blame Matt for just not being good at certain things, sure. Matt isn't a scrambler. JJ isn't a good receiver. blame them both equally for trying to hook up on that play. blame the coaches equally as well for having JJ in the game at all.
     
  2. javal_lon

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    Hasnt been alot of racially motivated material lately... People slippin and need to channel their inner Rush Limbaugh so I can preach to the choir...
     
  3. javal_lon

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    Blame Schaub for not rollin right when the initial play broke down... He should have known who was on the field.. JJ did nothing wrong but be JJ.. It was a broken play.. cant fault him for trying to get open and make himself a target... Any good smart QB would know that was a 2-play scenario... Quick slant or fade(Walter) and then you do that lil bs he did....
     
  4. justtxyank

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    That's EXACTLY what he did wrong.
     
  5. Uprising

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  6. Hey Now!

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    Not really. Note: at :10, he stops forward movement and begins running parallel to the goal line - away from the defender, reacting to his charge. Plus, if he's NOT looking at the defender, he should have his eyes on the only receiving option in the area, who, at that moment, is wiiiiiide open.

    So, yeah - we don't know for *sure* - but given his head and how he reacts, I think it's pretty safe to assume he's looking directly at the safety and not at his options.
     
  7. moestavern19

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    Again Texans fans have no idea how to handle a loss.

    1 Loss and its like "LETS HAVE 2030 THREADS TO TRY AND EXPLAIN TO US WHY WE LOST"

    ****ing hilarious honestly.

    When the Raiders lose to Buffalo I say to myself "******* ****ing assholes choked the game away" and then I punch a wall and sulk for a couple hours, then I leave it at that and by Tuesday I don't even remember most of it.


    You guys need a better coping mechanism.
     
  8. DonkeyMagic

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    so he should only stare down one receiver and not look for another option before throwing it?

    weak argument is weak.
     
  9. Uprising

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    Come on moes. There are message boards out there for every team, and people talk about what's wrong with their team when they lose.

    It's a message board.....people suppose be talking.

    Don't like it, don't click on the TEXANS FORUM. After losses, people with be b****ing, finding the scapegoat, and trying to figure out what went wrong.
     
  10. moestavern19

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    I never said I didn't like it, I just came in here to rub more salt in your wounds.

    You lost, Schaub didn't make the play... there are 5000 ways to overanalyze it but none of them change the outcome.
     
  11. rrj_gamz

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    Word...I, as everyone else, thought he was going to run but he hesitated and it was over...
     
  12. justtxyank

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    Yeah I know right? I bet on the Raider forums after a loss there is one thread and everyone posts one time saying "Well we lost, go get them next week."
     
  13. Icehouse

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    So I guess the Texans forum should have activity on Sunday and be inactive for the remainder of the week, unless threads are about new player acquisitions or the upcoming opponent? :confused:
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    All of this speaks to why the Texans sellout every game and the Raiders pull sub-BCS level attendance numbers.
     
  15. Hey Now!

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    Watch the play again; especially from the end zone perspective - there *isn't* another receiver to look for - they're all being covered by guys on the right-side of the field. If he's rolling hard left - at that angle - and looking for someone to throw to on his right, then he's a moron. And this is coming from a guy who has defended him in bunches this week.

    His actions strongly indicate he was looking *directly* at the safety. He (unnecessarily) moved to avoid him (after the pump fake failed) and didn't throw to his wide open receiver (who we know he was looking for because there were no other receivers anywhere near that side of the field).
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    he did throw to the open WR...the WR just bailed on his route.
     
  17. javal_lon

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    SMH..that cork-handed **** he threw tells the whole story...
     
  18. Hey Now!

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    He didn't throw to him when he was open. I don't place blame either way on the throw - JJ broke off his route to go to space at the exact moment Schaub assumed he would continue with his route - that's just bad timing and likely a component of less chemistry between the two of them.

    And it could be JJ is coached to do such-and-such and so ultimately, Schaub is in the "right" because JJ didn't do what he was told.

    But it is *undeniable* that JJ is open and that Schaub doesn't throw it to him. Pause the clip at :09 and you'll see JJ open in the top left corner and Schaub inexplicably moving away from a defender some 5-7 yards away from him. With his head pointed directly at the defender. I mean... it's clear as day, to me.
     
  19. javal_lon

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    I truly believe that the last play is more of an "icing on the cake" type criticism in regards to Jacoby's play , rather than the play itself..

    There is only 2 ways Jacoby could have avoided this backlash on that play with the same result ... 1)Schaub rolls right 2) Schaub makes a run for it..

    Texan fans ,includin myself, are tired of his cockiness and inconsistencies...Period
     
  20. The Cat

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    This. My other issue with Matt on the play is that in addition to not throwing it to JJ at :09, the move to the left seems unnecessary. By doing that, he's moving away from 4 of his 5 options on the field, and even his one available (JJ) necessitated throwing across his body to get it there.

    If he didn't like the opening JJ had at that moment, then stand for a couple more seconds and see what develops. He had time. Instead, he moved away from everyone.
     

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