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Schaub Debate

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by ubigred, Sep 29, 2011.

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  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    campbell has a strong arm and stands tall, he has his pluses over schaub, he's definitlely in a lower tier though
     
  2. moestavern19

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    And you're looking at it from the other side with blue steel colored glasses. The Texans had chances to put it away in the 1st half, in the 2nd half the momentum completely shifted.

    The Raiders dominated the LOS in the 2nd and could have put the game out of reach several times and failed to do so.

    Campbell kept throwing up duck after duck deep balls with no chance instead of looking for underneath options. Not even a single look at the TE all game.

    Raiders had a lot of opportunities to put the game out of reach and had to settle for FGs. Credit goes to the defense.

    The bottom line is Schaub's offensive line was getting dominated out there and he got up from every hard hit and managed to find a way to get them down the field in position to win the game.

    BOTTOM ****ING LINE.

    Matt Schaub is a top 10 QB in the league and you Texans fans b**** because he isn't Tom Brady.
     
  3. MadMax

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    Calm down, superman. All I've said is that I'm not sure he's capable of leading THIS TEAM to a championship.
     
  4. ipaman

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    really...

    here is the list again (with my comments) minus the tier IV as I said I wouldn't trade for any of those except cassell.

    Tier I
    Manning - no explanation needed
    Brady- no explanation needed
    Rodgers- no explanation needed
    Roethlisberger- no explanation needed

    Tier II
    Eli Manning - sb winner, on this texans team (solid line and running game) would be great
    Rivers - no explanation needed
    Flacco - this is 50/50 but age is a factor
    Romo - again very schaub like but similar to eli with our offence and running game would be great
    Ryan - better and younger
    Schaub
    Vick - injuries a problem but dude is explosive. again our offense and running game dude would be sick.


    Tier III
    Bradford - younger, potential franchise qb
    Cutler - you get cutler not his team, cutler with this offense and running game better than schaub.
    Fitzpatrick - 50/50, but playing great this year.
    Freeman - younger, potential franchise qb
    Newton - simply unbelievable was this dude has done through first 4 games.
    Stafford - young potential franchise qb
    Sanchez - younger, with our offense and running game would do very well

    so there you have it. as i said you could make a case for all of those tier III being a better option either now or long term than schaub. in fact another way at looking at, i don't think any of those teams would do the trade and that says more about schaub then i ever could.

    oh and 95% of that list is more mobile than boat anchor schaub.
     
  5. moestavern19

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    Campbell has **** for touch on his deep balls, he has receivers streaking down the sideline and he always puts the ball just so that the receiver can make the catch and land OUT OF BOUNDS.

    He's a caretaker QB at best. He can manage a game and make smart decisions, hand offs, but he isn't going to pull a beast 50 yard TD pass out of his ass with the game on the line.

    I'm wondering what Terrell Pryor has got at this point.
     
  6. moestavern19

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    You want a championship? Find a coach who doesn't throw away timeouts with idiotic challenges.
     
  7. MadMax

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    no, i don't want a championship. i love 7-9, the 8th seed and a good 100 loss season. so much more endearing that way.
     
  8. moestavern19

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    I get it. I've lived here for 4 years now.

    Houston Sports = Schizophrenic fans that have their hopes raised and dashed on a weekly basis.

    Can't wait until the Rockets land Dwight and CP3 and we get back to winning so I don't have to deal with all this self-loathing.
     
  9. Hey Now!

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    They don't want to hear it. I don't know why... but they don't. With Mario hurt, all of their ire (and ohhhhhh... is there a lot of it) will now be placed entirely on Schaub. Does not matter what happens - if they lose, you'll see 54 pages of why they should draft Kase Keenum. Oh, sure - they'll acknowledge others' faults, but only in passing. And then they'll start a 54-page thread about trading Schaub for the Eagles' 3rd CB.

    I guess it's just easier? I don't know. Given the context of yesterday's game, I thought Schaub played pretty well. And I thought the Raiders' D played exceptionally well. I suspect ya'll are going to sneak-win that division. Should be 6-2 going into SD in a month.
     
  10. MadMax

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    honestly, who is placing all of this on Schaub?
     
  11. DonkeyMagic

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    most people.
     
  12. MadMax

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    oh, i hate that guy!
     
  13. ima_drummer2k

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    LOL, I really don't think we're going to go 7-9 this year...

    Seriously, look at the schedule. Do you see 7 more losses?
     
  14. MadMax

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    i don't think we will either. not what i meant when i posted that.
     
  15. weslinder

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    Me neither, but last year, when the Texans were 3-2 after just losing to a good Giants team, did you think they were going 6-10? I certainly didn't.
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    not far from it. The Jax and Denver game were the obvious blown games. The rest of the schedule was pretty brutal.
     
  17. Hey Now!

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    Point me to the 21-page thread about.... well, anyone. Hell, find 21 *posts* that don't implicate Schaub:

    Originally posted by Groogrux
    schaub is an overrated pansy.

    Originally posted by TheRealist137
    Schaub is a scaredy cat trying to play in a man's game.

    Originally posted by GlenRice
    Matt Schaub will act like Tom Brady in one drive and Jamarcus Russell in another drive in the same ****ing game.

    Originally posted by ascaptjack
    Trade Schaub and a future 1st rounder for number 1 pick and draft Luck!

    Originally posted by Commodore
    Matt Schomo

    Originally posted by plates300
    I just hope this TJ Yates character will end up being a good pick. I think Schaub has reached his ceiling.

    Originally posted by TheChosenOne
    Schaub sucks, there is no debate

    Originally posted by thejav
    A**hole could have ran it in... what a pu**y

    Originally posted by htownrox1
    He makes stupid decision after stupid decision. The time for a new QB has come upon us. Hell I'd even take Vince Young at this point.

    Hell, someone call up Carson Palmer and tell him to come down to H-town for a visit. I'd take him at this point.

    Originally posted by Rocket River
    Would you take a 3rd or 4th rounder on Kase Keenum?
    even a 2nd?

    Could have had Kevin Kolb!

    Matt Schaub is the t-mac of the Texans.

    Originally posted by ipaman
    in summary, plays scared and low football IQ.

    Originally posted by DaDakota
    Matt Schuab is a journeyman QB whose teamates can elevate his play.

    Originally posted by ubigred
    I know Vickers should of caught that ball, but Schaub had no pressure and threw the ball behind Vickers.
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    If you didn't bother reading, here are the highlights: He was compared to JaMarcus Russell and T-Mac; was deemed inferior to Vince Young, Carson Palmer and Kevin Kolb; there was a TJ Yates reference and never-too-early draft day projections for Andrew Luck, Kase Keenum. etc. etc.

    And that's just choice bits from the last 6 pages of this thread. And the team is 3-2! Again, I'll invite you to find any level of vitriol for any other aspect of yesterday's game in any other thread.
     
  18. MadMax

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    Ric, I was critical of him too...but that's very different than saying he's the only reason they lost the game.
     
  19. Hey Now!

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    Then point me to the threads were we can spread the blame around, MadMax. They must exist!
     
  20. MadMax

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    the game thread...this thread...posts critical of kubiak..vickers...etc.
     
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