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iPhone September Event (iPhone 5)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ItsMyFault, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. JeopardE

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    Yes, this really is iPhone 3GS all over again. That doesn't mean it won't succeed, though.
     
  2. ItsMyFault

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    Yup. Master manipulators.

    Quotes like these makes me laugh.

    "Despite competitors trying really hard to copy the iPhone 4, they haven't really been able to come close."

    Of course the average consumer is going to take their word for it.
     
  3. Hilltopper

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    http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Sprint-iPhone-5-Forms-Core-of-Apple-Launch-276326/

    Sprint iPhone 5 Forms Core of Apple Launch


    By: Clint Boulton
    2011-10-03
    Article Rating:starstarstarstarstar / 32


    The biggest news for the launch would seem to be the iPhone 5's arrival on Sprint (NYSE:S), which is poised to become the first U.S. carrier since Verizon Wireless (NYSE:VZW) in February of this year to sell the smartphone.

    The Wall Street Journal said Sprint must buy 30.5 million iPhones from Apple over the next four years, a $20 billion investment on which the company would basically stake its future.

    Sprint isn't expected to make any money on the phones until at least 2014. That puts the company, which has passionately fought against AT&T's proposed purchase of T-Mobile to avoid being relegated last in the short list of big U.S. carriers, in a potentially precarious position.

    Sprint would join U.S. carriers AT&T (NYSE:T) and Verizon Wireless (NYSE:VZW), as the third U.S. carrier to offer the iPhone since its arrival in 2007. Apple has sold more than 128 million iPhones since launching the smartphone in 2007.

    The talk of Sprint joining AT&T and Verizon to further the iPhone's footprint brings up another interesting question: Will Apple launch one or more phones tomorrow?

    Boy Genius Report claims the iPhone 5 will be a 4G WiMax handset that is exclusive to Sprint for now. AT&T and Verizon will get the incremental upgrade, the iPhone 4GS tomorrow, and the iPhone 5 as a 4G LTE handset at a later date.

    There have been a lot of rumors as to what the iPhone 5 will look like, not to mention what is under the hood. Does it have a new teardrop shape, or will it look the same? Will the screen size be 4 inches or larger?

    No one but Apple and those who signed NDAs with the company at the risk of being banished to the equivalent of high-tech's Siberia know for sure.

    Judging from previous iPhone launches, the handset almost certainly has an upgraded processor--the new A5 chip. It's also rumored to boast an 8 megapixel camera, which would be a welcome improvement over the already high-resolution shutter of the iPhone 4.

    The iPhone 5 will reportedly also include the Siri virtual personal assistant technology Apple acquired in April 2010. Siri is a wonderful piece of artificial intelligence software that lets users book restaurant tables, buy movie tickets and perform several other tasks, all by speaking into their device.

    The device, originally launched for the iPhone 3GS less than two years ago, takes into account users' locations to direct them to local services, and the application picks up information and "remembers" it for context about that user.

    Siri co-founder Norman Winarsky unleashed a load of hyperbole unto 9-to-5 Mac (hyperbole warning) about how Apple taking Siri's AI mainstream will be a "world-changing event."

    Possibly, but the Siri software will have to be not only easy for them to use but highly desirable for them to use. Apple's ability to render software useful to average Joe Consumer is a big part of what makes its consumer electronics devices so popular and endearing.

    Meanwhile, new CEO Tim Cook has, for the first time since spelling Apple CEO Steve Jobs thrice previously, taken the reins on a permanent basis.

    The former Apple COO will have to step from his operations guy work boots into his showman's cape, hoping to catch even a sliver of the Jobsian showman flair for which the company's co-founder is universally appreciated.

    Current Analysis analyst Avi Greengart told eWEEK he had no idea whether to expect a massive redesign or a minor one.

    "Even if all Apple does is launch an A5 processor, and a little larger screen, and up the resolution of the camera, those would be improvements to a phone that is the best-selling smartphone 16 months after launch," Greengart told eWEEK.

    He said he is curious to see whether the iPhone 5 will be LTE-enabled, and whether Apple launches a low-cost iPhone. Low-cost Android smartphones sold overseas have helped Google's open source mobile OS become the world leader in smartphone sales. A new, sub $99 iPhone could be a smash hit not only overseas but in the United States.

    "A low-cost iPhone would be the single most disruptive thing that Apple could do right now, perhaps not in the U.S. but globally," Greengart said.

    Apple commands only 20 percent or so worldwide market share, well behind Google's (NASDAQ:GOOG) Android platform at 40 percent. Apple's U.S. market share is 28 percent, compared to 43 percent, according to Nielsen's latest report.

    Yet hype over the new iPhone(s) has built to such a fever pitch that one wonders whether Apple won't catch Android market share, at least in the United States, by this time next year, if not sooner.
     
  4. FlyerFanatic

    FlyerFanatic YOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO!?! YEEEHAAWW
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    does anyone know how the iOS 5 upgrade will happen? iOS 5 brings OTA updates right? so no more plugging your iphone/ipad in, but what about the initial updating from iOS 4 to iOS 5? will iOS 5 come OTA?
     
  5. ItsMyFault

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    I'm thinking it will be the normal way where you have to plug it into iTunes since iOS 5 isn't actually on the phone when you're upgrading to it you wont have the OTA feature.
     
  6. FlyerFanatic

    FlyerFanatic YOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO!?! YEEEHAAWW
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    ahh ok, i figured wasnt sure.
     
  7. emjohn

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    I look at it the other way - it's a huge help if I'm driving. Responding to texts, instant jump to driving navigation route, etc.

    I think it's a good product, good update to the phone. Beefed up processor and a strong improvement in the camera. Of course, I don't really buy that download speeds will be twice as fast - that's going to be far too dependent on networks. iPhone's media-centric nature means it's begging to be on LTE for streaming. That would be my biggest concern about getting this on a two year contract - iPhone could address this in as little as 8 months. I'm of the opinion that 3G networks are going to feel like dialup internet in about a year.

    Definitely muted the iPod line refresh. RIP Clickwheel. No actual updates on the surviving lines, just a minor price drop on the nano. I'm sure they're itching to kill off the shuffle at this point.

    I did laugh when they claimed the Air "fundamentally changed the way we think about computers". Okay, sure.
     
  8. Mr.Scarface

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    Those case are probably right on, but the Iphone 5 is waiting for the A6 chip. That chip is schedule to go into production next Feb./March. You will probably see the IPad 3/ iphone 5 next summer with Quad Core processor and LTE/WiMAX. IPad 3 needs the Quad core for the Retina display.

    As for iPad 2 production cuts. They cut orders from 17 Million to 13-14 Million for the 4th QUARTER. That is still a ridiculous amount when compared to other Tablets.....the next best tablet will be Lucky to sell 5 Million Tablets for the year.
     
  9. Mr.Scarface

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    ipod classic is still available at $250 for 160 gigs. With click wheel.
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    With how good streaming music services have become, I can't believe the iPod market still exists.
     
  11. Mr.Scarface

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    im just not sure how practical can it be in a public setting. you're at a bar, music blaring, and everyone chatting it up, doubtful you could open the voice command up and say "call john" or "text john" then say what you want to text someone without it not picking up other words/noises.
     
  13. Coach AI

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    Basically the 3G-3GS bump, which is what most rumor sites were pointing to leading up to today. Not really too surprising, still a little unexpected because of the Verizon delay.

    Siri stuff is interesting, I imagine that the voice control stuff will keep evolving as we go.

    I missed it: did we have a date for the iOS 5 rollout?
     
  14. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Well I guess im buying my first iphone from sprint. I've waited for ever and hate verizon and att.
     
  15. Major

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    I'm not sure that's the primary purpose of it, though. If you're sitting at a bar, it's just as easy to text - not trying to talk over others is the whole reason texting was invented in the first place. But when you're driving (or otherwise unable to type) and need directions or need to reply to a text, it would make sense.
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I can't stream music when I am running. I can't stream my audiobooks on long drives. I can't stream music on plane rides.
     
  17. Royals Ego

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    I guess I'm one of the few who still prefers my media in my hard drive rather than the 'clouds'

    streaming services and ISPs are working together to suck your money, it may not matter now, but eventually your 150gb or 250gb cap won't suffice for monthly usage
     
  18. Cowboy_Bebop

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    I wonder if Samsung had anything to do with the missing iPhone 5 since Apple being a dick suing them left and right. Now seems like Samsung want to block the iPhone 5 for patents infringement.
     
  19. professorjay

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    Between the phasing out of unlimited plans and throttling high bandwidth users I'll stick with playing off my device. Streaming will also use more battery on my phone too.
     
  20. Mr.Scarface

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    Apple is not worried about Sammy. Sammy is just pissed they are going to lose access to Apple products so they can't copy them anymore. Apple is shifting to other hardware suppliers because Sammy's ip theft. There goes 8 billion a year for Sammy! The iPhone 5 is waiting on the A6 processor, LTE Expansion, and better battery life.
     

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