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Myth of one player 'carrying' a team

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets Jones, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. tinman

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    Kobe after Shaquille trade couldn't get them past the first rd. Smush,kwame,odom,Walto n....
     
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    what happened later? they eventually built a team around him that would work. He eventually became a leader and people would want to play with him.

    the GM, coach, and owner has to decide if their highest paid player is worth building a team around. If he's a leader and is dedicated to winning. Also if he's durable to handle the stresses of the nba season.

    Obviously it was worth it for Hakeem. A player who can do dominate the tempo on both ends of the court. A leader that every teammate loves to play with.

    You notice that Kenny Smith talks about Dream all the time on TNT.
     
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    Because Iverson didn't recklessly go to the lane....Iverson 6' Jordan 6'6
     
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    t-mac fans still running their yaps?
     
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    what? did you even watch Iverson play?
    do you even know what the hand check rule means?
     
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    Oh ok, so Leslie didn't see that in tmac that's why cd always wanted washed up vets.
     
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    And it's funny how Kobe threw the whole team under the bus in camera and the worst way but still gets praised. And tmac is the bad guy. We got some terrible dick hopping fans in here and is funny how we expect a superstar to come over here.
     
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    Tmac didn't get treated any differently from the fans from Houston like the fans from Orlando or Toronto.

    His demise was his own doing.

    The obvious reason why Kobe didn't get traded because he was an elite player and the organization wouldn't trade him for a bad deal.

    This happened with Dream early in his career, the organization felt they could resolve their differences with him and they did.

    Same with the Lakers.

    They couldn't resolve the issues with Tracy, plus he was obviously not an elite player when they traded him away.
     
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    We brought in a bunch of ex-Knicks. I wonder why? (sarcasm)

    It was obvious that JVG/CD's strategy of relying on Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming as the main pieces did not work.

    You guys can pretend all you want, it doesn't change history. any of it, Houston, Orlando, Toronto, the Knicks, the Pistons etc.
     
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    Orlando and toronto hated him because he left them. Houston hated him for being injury prone and whining too much
     
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    Did you ever see the Magic/Bird documentary?

    these guys were nba legends who led their teams to glory. Listen to those guys and you'll know about leadership and winning and motivation. it's not about "carrying" a team. It's about LEADING a team.

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    Don't spend this entire off season wondering what if mcgrady etc. aka fiction, try some non fiction.
     
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    Weatherspoon,Strickland,lue,juwan Howard,Padgett,nachbar, childs,Jimmy Jackson, mo Taylor,Cato,battier,..... None of those can be compared to Kobe championship team
     
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    lol I've waited a long time for someone to debunk this r****ded theory of Tinman's.

    Comparing the hate for tmac from Magic and Raptors fans to that of Rocket fans is apples and oranges.

    But off course Tinman would never understand that.
     
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    so what is your point?

    Kobe wins championships but we should give a big what if championship ring every year that Tracy didn't win?

    Oh my bad. Don't forget to do a what if Tim Duncan and what if Paul Pierce and what if Shaq and what if Dwayne Wade to

    I've got an idea for the tmac fans...

    take all your money, go to a jewelry and tell them to make up some fake championship rings. then Fed-Ex them to Tmac's house.

    Seriously, this non stop jealousy is insane. cause that's all it is. only one team can win a championship each year. just respect it.
    So what if you're favorite player didn't win?
     
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    I should have mentioned that he was booed by all those fans.

    Am I wrong about that one?
     
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    You think the reason he was boo'd in Toronto and Orlando is the same reason he was boo'd in Houston?
     
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    you know it.

    the usual.

    what if?
    kobe
    teammates not good
    injury
    it's not fair that kobe
    teammates suck
    what if
    better than kobe
    orlando greatest season in the history of the world
    not his fault
    kobe

    yeah.
     
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    Bird and magic didn't do it by themselves, they had some spectacular games. Tell me the roster bird and magic had please.
     
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    he got booed. that's all i said. but feel free to think i'm implying other stuff. it doesn't stop you from doing that anyway.

    I don't know what every single on these fans were booing him for.


    use some that awesome tmac what if technology and what if yourself into the crowd and tell them to stop booing

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