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So What's Wrong With Herman Cain

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Sep 28, 2011.

  1. greenhippos

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    The simple fact he has a hard time understanding the first amendment has me worried about him being second in line for the presidency if he is tapped for VP and the GOP wins next year.
     
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    You say that but the special election in New York that Republicans keep pointing to was more or less decided on social issues.
     
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    No he was making a point that the government is extremely inefficient and that they are also very very slow. They would put a schedule on everything which wouldn't be needed nor efficient yet it would all be on the government terms.. Too bad if you disagree, that's not a good thing
     
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  6. Major

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    Then he doesn't understand anything about the health care reform, given that the government is not involved in the process at all. You still have private insurance, and you still have private health care providers. The government is not injected into the process at all except requiring people to have insurance.

    So if you're right, that's even worse - because that just shows he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. Most people that b****ing about the waits in other countries are referencing what I was talking about: too many people getting health care causing long waits for surgeries, etc.
     
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    which social issues?
     
  8. Space Ghost

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    Most evangelicals are Republican. Like 80% of the population and 99.9% in the D&D, they will be voting "R" or "D", not "R"omney or "D"ohbama.
     
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    No that was foreign policy (Israel) and the economy, not social issues.
     
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    agreed.. lots of great ideas ..
    I'm liking Herman Cain more and more.
    I didn't know much about him and thought he was a fringe candidate since the only thing i knew about him was his comments on Muslims. But sounds like he has some good ideas.
     
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    True but that's not the whole story. Israel was definitely relevant but Weprin's stance on civil unions and gay marriage, abortion, dadt, etc.. all rubbed the large orthodox Jewish and Catholic communities the wrong way.

    But bottom line economics had little to do with this.
     
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    So his solution boils down to lowering all taxes and eliminate the payroll taxes - not sure how or if he plans to fund SS or Medicare given that those are their funding sources. Basically, his solution is to bankrupt government and drive up debt as much as possible.

    I'd like to remind you that we've been lowering taxes for the last decade. It doesn't create jobs, as much as you'd like to believe otherwise. All it does is create debt.

    I'd also remind you that companies have record amounts of cash and profitability. They aren't hiring because they don't need to, not because they need lower taxes rates. Giving them even more profit isn't going to change that.

    This is basically the standard talking-point GOP plan from the last 30 years.
     
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    It takes about 3 seconds of mental contemplation to come up with a strategy that amounts to "let me slash taxes, and regulation, and let everything else work itself out".

    Yeah, a zero percent capital gains tax, and deregulated derivatives/futures markets, nothing can go wrong with that.

    Neither can forgetting to mention the draconian cuts in SS/medicaid/medicare/veterans benefits/education/DOD that will come if this plan fails because Herman Cain spent 3 seconds studying the Laffer Curve, and hyperinflation, and has no grasp of economic concepts at all---including the curve itself, which empirical research suggests has been hyped to death because the optimal tax point is actually to the right of where current tax rates are.
     
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    Plan looks like a GOP talking point described with big words to sound smart. All that does is help with the continual rape of the average man.
     
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    Seriously... he couldn't come up with 8-8-8 or 10-10-10?

    I'm going to lol if people start chanting "9-9-9!"
     
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    I doubt that. He had a normal favorable/unfavorable rating.

    http://www.siena.edu/uploadedfiles/home/Parents_and_Community/Community_Page/SRI/SNY_Poll/9th%20CD%202011%20Special%20Poll%20Release%201%20--%20FINAL.pdf

    It was a vote against Obama's economic and foreign policies.

    How do you know that? Above 9 percent unemployemnt and CBO projections that predict above 9% unemployment for all of next year would usually affect an election
     
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