[lvsun]Bud and Thabeet playing their cards right this offseason

Oh grow up.

Weren't you the guy going around saying "If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen"?

Did you not learn anything over the year throwing around baseless assumptions and getting crushed for doing so?

I made a valid point, if you're going for childish responses meant for instigating a flame war instead of a proper discussion, well so be it.

 

Ok, you got it...



DD

 

I ran into Damon Jones playing craps at the Aria a couple weeks ago. He looks old and haggard, but he can still make 3 pt shots (saw him make many of those at the Impact gym).

By the way, is it still correct to refer to him as a "free agent" if he has no hope of ever coming back to the NBA? Hell, I'm as much of an NBA free agent as Damon Jones is.

 

It's funny how you would constantly cry about other posters being "classless" and always taking "pot shots" at you.

Now I see that when posters insult your weight, they aren't being personal or classless, they are complimenting your physical capability of containing such a massive ego within a body.

Props to you.

 

Look Flamer,

No need for us to discuss it....you have your opinion, I have mine.

DD

 

You aren't having an opinion, you're trolling. There is a difference between the two, the sooner you realize that, the sooner you'll realize why there is always a target on your back.

 

I am not trolling by standing up for Thabeet, I am just not willing to engage in another worthless argument with you about opinions.

Back and forth, back and forth, and there is no winner.

So, I will simply let you win up front !

DD

 

This thread started off pretty simple just a few hours ago...

This argument wasn't even entertaining. Just insultingly lame.

 

Oh please this thread turned to crap the moment you started acting like a child with those re-quotes. That is the definition of trolling.

And for your information I said in my first post that I thought a lot of criticism towards Hasheem is unwarranted, because I for one don't think Hasheem is completely hopeless.

Whatever, have it your way. I'm leaving this before you troll this thread any further.

 

We agree then, Hasheem hatred is unwarranted.

WOOHOO !!

DD

 

Wow. A guy has an opinion and gets called a troll. Only on Clutchfans.

 

I just want to say that people who are arguing for Thabeet are not arguing for him to start. We are just wanting him to play.

 

The annual "DD has too much time on his hands and overrates a scrub, resulting in a jinx on the player who will never fulfill his potential" thread

 

Take your crap with DD to its own thread please.

 

IMO, if Thabeet is our starting center we are in big trouble. I'm not saying he's a bust but defienatly a long term project.

What's really funny though is some of the many around here were whining about Shane and the need to trade him as his time had passed for the fact his field goal % had dropped and then they b**** about Morey not taking any risky moves. Well he did both in one swoop and some still b**** when Thabeet hasn't even had a chance from precamp. Give him some time. I hope Morey makes a a trade for a starting center.

One thing is a fact, you can't teach size. The Roxs need size badly. See Chuck, for all his hard work he's not gonna grow any. I didn't really like the trade for Thabeet but we still have to give it a chance. Does Thabeet not qualify as one of those high risk moves that everyone was asking for?, rather than the safe bets that everyone says Morey makes? Only time will tell.

 

I would feel much better about Thabeet if he could consistently jump without falling over. After Yao, every time I see a big fall, I cringe.

 

Damon Jones needs to realize that him hanging out with current NBA players just makes him look bad that he apparently sucks too much to be signed to a team.

 

You dont develop raw players in the NBA. He is way too RAW. Thats what the D-league is for. The NBA is for players players who already have established and effective skill sets, coaches and staff help them to translate those skill sets into the NBA and expand those skills from there.

Thabeet doesnt have any established skill sets. What he did in college was just stand under the rim and jump and wave his arms. He and CD both admitted so in an article. Yes you cant teach size, but size is not a skill, its an attribute. Besides his physical attributes - length and athleticism, he has no ball playing skills what so ever. If Thabeet had some skills to go along with height and athleticism then we could afford to give him game time so he can make mistakes, learn and expand form there.

But we cant afford to give him real NBA game time to learn basic skills.
Thats what the D-League is for. He needs to learn the basic/fundamental skills like how to use his feet so he can move in and around the rim while keeping up with his man, then how to use his length and quickness to guard him without fouling, he needs to learn how to use his body to overpower opponents during positioning for rebounds or boxing his opponents out of the paint when trying to post up. Those are just the basics, from there he can come into the NBA and expand those skills with time.

Im happy to give Thabeet all the time he needs to "develop"- BUT in the "developmental-League". You want to develop players - that's what its there for. Only guys who are already "developED" belong in NBA. From there they expand their skills.

Bring him back from the d-league every once in a while to see how he has progressed. But we cant afford to let him develop during real game time while he is raw. Wait till he has a base and a structure, then give him real game time to expand his game.

 

Exactly. He had lots of time to play at RG. He has not yet shown that he deserves real NBA minutes.

IMO, his ceiling is Shawn Bradley. I suspect that the Rockets will not pick up another option for him.