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Schaub Debate

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by ubigred, Sep 29, 2011.

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  1. Wilford_Knows

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    I wouldn't.

    And I doubt that there are many others that would.
     
  2. emjohn

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    It's only now in his third season that he's made it to his 16th game. QB's no good if he can't get out of the trainer's room.

    ...and a disturbing habit of ignoring his coaches to do whatever he wants, and subsequently mouthing off at those coaches when his freelancing causes a turnover. And he is so stuck on waiting for a deep play that he ignores the usual 3-second alarm clock and takes more sacks and coughes up more fumbles than he should.

    He's got a cannon arm. He's also a finger-pointing uncoachable prick that loses at least 2 or 3 games a year on his own.
     
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  3. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    Cutler has a cannon arm too. (Not saying anything about accuracy)

    I don't know about coaching, Cutler has Mike Martz right!?! He's an offensive genius!! (when having future HOF'ers at QB, RB and WR)
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    I'm guessing if Cutler had our QB coaches, his accuracy would be markedly better. But he could probably never master the bootleg or playaction like Schaub has, nor will Schaub ever have Jay's big arm.
     
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  6. emjohn

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    If you know your O-Line can't give you time and that your receivers can't break guys off with their initial move and get separation, then you are a bonafide idiot for holding on to the ball anyway.

    Dump it off to Forte (note - he's been doing a much better job of that to start the year).
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    That's pretty much been their entire offense since they drafted him.

    Poor guy is going to get killed before he gets his big payday.
     
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    What quaterback can win a game by himself? at some point the defense has to make a stand, especially when you get in shootouts. What if we had brees here last year instead of Matt? he still would not prevent the defense from making Sanchez, or every other qb for that matter, look like johnny U.

    Crazy pills! He's not elite, but he can get streaky hot and play like the elite. All you need to do is get in the playoffs and anything can happen.

    Mind blowing..but Qb's tend to force things under pressure, all of them.
    For example, in the following play, Rodgers eliteness did not allow him to teleport away from pressure he couldn't see.
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    What I don't like about schaub is that he is 30 already. It's his fault too for not being born in the mid 80's:mad:

    ^^HE MAD.
     
  9. ubigred

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    Win what exactly??
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    Foozeball games.

    Most of these losses aren't on Matt, dude.

    Despite Matt's shortcomings, we've had a top 5 offense for a few years now.
     
  11. ima_drummer2k

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    LOL, Castor wasn't lying.
     
  12. ubigred

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    Best we've been is 9th in scoring. Points per game is what matters.
     
  13. DonkeyMagic

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    I don't even understand what's being debated or why.
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    Top 10 in scoring, top 3 in offense, the last two years... and yet it's our quarterback's fault we're not winning games.

    Yeah... not buying it.

    Tunnel vision; you has it.
     
  15. Rocket River

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    Schaub doesn't have to be superman.
    Texans gets killed if he tries to be.
    Just no dumb mistakes.

    I put more blame on dumb play calling that Schaub himself
    Is he *allowed* to audible yet?
    A Good coach would not put his QB in situations that at beyond the QB's ability.
    he coaches around the QBs weaknesses

    In the form of David Carr . .the weakness were too much to overcome
    in the case of Schaub . . they are ok and managable
    Kubiak just sometimes does not manage them well

    Rocket River
     
  16. ubigred

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    Good offense, not great (see redzone trips).

    Good QB, not great.

    Nothing tunnel vision about that.
     
  17. MadMax

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    redzone offense was great when Arian was in there, right?

    he's a good QB. at times he's very good.

    i just think he's nowhere near a big enough problem to warrant much of a discussion. there isn't anyone who is going to trade us someone who would be an upgrade. and there are much more glaring holes to deal with. this isn't a david carr situation where he's hampering the team, generally.
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    how is it up to Matt?

    how is he not pulling his weight?

    you seem to be in love with the idea of the superhero qb ... that's setting yourself up to never be satisfied.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I think you nailed it RR, Schaub is good enough, is he perfect or elite, no, but he is better than average and good enough of Kubiak would stop getting cute.

    DD
     
  20. ubigred

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    Hey leave the elite QB's out of this. Schaub is good , not great. That is all I said. I listed some things that I would like him to do , but he can't. Fine. He is good, not great.

    Go Texans...no matter who the QB is.
     
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