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Some people believe that Hakeem's MVP was a 'farce'

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Sep 22, 2011.

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Are you proud of Hakeem's MVP?

  1. Yes, and i'm proud of the DPOY and Finals MVP he won that year too

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  2. It's a farce award, it should go to someone who scores alot of points that year

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  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    Is that all you know about Dream?

    In 1994, he won the MVP, DPOY, and Finals MVP
    He is the league's all time shot blocker.
    He's the best Rocket of all time, PERIOD.

    has that other guy in that much hyped Orlando seasons ever even come close, personal and team achievements?

    you know the answer, Pat Garrity knows the answer, Yao Ming knows that answer, Clutch knows that answer, Orlando knows that answer, Conrad Murray knows that answer, Bushwick Bill knows that answer, Tyler Derden knows that answer, Keyser Sose knows that answer, Stevie Wonder knows that answer
     
    #101 tinman, Sep 27, 2011
  2. liljojo

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    This thread should have died 5 pages ago.
     
    #102 liljojo, Sep 27, 2011
  3. meh

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    I'm sorry. You are right. I can't possibly know anything about Dream because I'm not you, tinman. Only you know the greatness of dream and only you yourself. I know you are the only true Rockets fan in the entire world. And I am truly sorry to have pretended to be one.

    And for that, you have my sincerest apologies.
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    I think I may have figured it out, why the Tmac fans started jumping like QBert when I replied that I don't believe that Tracy was ever better than Kobe...

    Hear me out..

    It's because Rockets fans respected that he went to our legend Hakeem Olajuwon to improve his post game

    both of these guys won the regular season and finals MVP

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/BpNBQPHjVz8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    It's just game recognizing game

    naturally the tracy fans don't think tracy needs any help on his game, he's just a victim of bad luck for all these years while these dudes were lucky
     
    #104 tinman, Sep 27, 2011
  5. htownrox1

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    So Kobe never won a championship before he went to Hakeem? Hmm that's news to me.
     
    #105 htownrox1, Sep 27, 2011
  6. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    can you actually quote me when you pretend to read what i say?

    the whole idea of the tracy fan is jealousy

    they are always hating on players that have more success, they don't hate players that have less success

    so when two of the greatest, Dream and Kobe joined forces to share knowledge, their hatred has been extended to Dream

    I mean, you mention yourself that you are tired of these Dream threads.
    Yet, there are others besides me posting Dream threads

    There's a nice thread about 95 Dream vs Dallas, People watching NBATV for the 95 finals

    Dream will always be relevant in the hearts of Rockets fans
    that other guy, not so much
     
    #106 tinman, Sep 27, 2011
  7. liljojo

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    Also, LOL at the Clutch City talk. We are as much Clutch City as the Dallas Cowboys are America's team.

    Meaning, the last time it was true was about 15 years ago. Great times (ones I wish I was old enough to remember), but long in the past.

    Sure, it's fun to reminisce about it, especially now that our team sucks and the NBA is locked out. We can and should feel proud of what Dream and those championship teams did.

    However, that's no excuse to start a thread attacking a fellow fan for a quote taken completely out of context and hiding behind "I love Hakeem and you don't" when people call you out on it. You're defending an Dream's MVP when nobody's attacking it, and being a real douche about it in the process.

    Or you're just trolling. Can't tell really.
     
    #107 liljojo, Sep 28, 2011
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  8. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    Clutch City is the term for the Hakeem's Rockets during the championship years.

    The person, which I made anonymous, decided to show up here.
    He didn't respect the MVP award and said it was a farce.

    He didn't say when [mvp] won it, it was a farce. he said it was a farce PERIOD.

    I'm assuming, like you, since you weren't old enough to watch a real NBA MVP for the Rockets, you wouldn't feel that way about that award.

    Besides, look at all of those winners of the MVP, they have all gone to the Hall of Fame. Is that a farce too?

    it's my thread, how can I troll it?

    It's about Hakeem.
     
    #108 tinman, Sep 28, 2011
  9. liljojo

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    Who the heck respects the MVP award? Some years they get it right, other years they don't. It's a nice award to have, but it in no way proves you were the best player in the league that season. You might have been, but you'd be a fool to point to an MVP trophy as proof.

    Steve Nash has 2 MVP trophies on his mantle. Is he HOF-bound? Yea, probably. Was he at any point in his career the best player in the NBA? Nope. All MVP winners are elite players. Not all of them are the best in the league.

    See our point now?

    You don't have to bother replying. I shouldn't have contributed to this silly thread in the first place, but I already typed out all this text.
     
    #109 liljojo, Sep 28, 2011
  10. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    you are contributing to this thread because you desire to, don't lie to yourself.

    Again, the MVP award is given to the best player who led his team to a great record in the regular season.

    you are getting what you think the MVP should be to what the MVP trophy really is.

    Our point? You represent yourself dude. You might agree with the ewoks, but you are not their leader.

    Go ahead kid, make my day.

    tell me who is a farce and I'll tell Clutch to tell David Stern to change the books
    http://www.nba.com/history/awards/mvp-award-winners/index.html

    Year Player Team
    2010-11 Derrick Rose Chicago Bulls
    2009-10 LeBron James Cleveland Cavaliers
    2008-09 LeBron James Cleveland Cavaliers
    2007-08 Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers
    2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki Dallas Mavericks
    2005-06 Steve Nash Phoenix Suns
    2004-05 Steve Nash Phoenix Suns
    2003-04 Kevin Garnett Minnesota Timberwolves
    2002-03 Tim Duncan San Antonio Spurs
    2001-02 Tim Duncan San Antonio Spurs
    2000-01 Allen Iverson Philadelphia 76ers
    1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal Los Angeles Lakers
    1998-99 Karl Malone Utah Jazz
    1997-98 Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls
    1996-97 Karl Malone Utah Jazz
    1995-96 Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls
    1994-95 David Robinson San Antonio Spurs
    1993-94 Hakeem Olajuwon Houston Rockets
    1992-93 Charles Barkley Phoenix Suns
    1991-92 Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls
    1990-91 Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls
    1989-90 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1988-89 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1987-88 Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls
    1986-87 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1985-86 Larry Bird Boston Celtics
    1984-85 Larry Bird Boston Celtics
    1983-84 Larry Bird Boston Celtics
    1982-83 Moses Malone Philadelphia 76ers
    1981-82 Moses Malone Houston Rockets
    1980-81 Julius Erving Philadelphia 76ers
    1979-80 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Los Angeles Lakers
    1978-79 Moses Malone Houston Rockets
    1977-78 Bill Walton Portland Trail Blazers
    1976-77 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Los Angeles Lakers
    1975-76 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Los Angeles Lakers
    1974-75 Bob McAdoo Buffalo Braves
    1973-74 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Milwaukee Bucks
    1972-73 Dave Cowens Boston Celtics
    1971-72 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Milwaukee Bucks
    1970-71 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Milwaukee Bucks
    1969-70 Willis Reed New York Knicks
    1968-69 Wes Unseld Baltimore Bullets
    1967-68 Wilt Chamberlain Philadelphia 76ers
    1966-67 Wilt Chamberlain Philadelphia 76ers
    1965-66 Wilt Chamberlain Philadelphia 76ers
    1964-65 Bill Russell Boston Celtics
    1963-64 Oscar Robertson Cincinnati Royals
    1962-63 Bill Russell Boston Celtics
    1961-62 Bill Russell Boston Celtics
    1960-61 Bill Russell Boston Celtics
    1959-60 Wilt Chamberlain Philadelphia Warriors
    1958-59 Bob Pettit St. Louis Hawks
    1957-58 Bill Russell Boston Celtics
    1956-57 Bob Cousy Boston Celtics
    1955-56 Bob Pettit St. Louis Hawks
     
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  11. Hak34

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    Which Mod decided to erase the Vernon Maxwell stuff I posted.

    Is it because it was negative towards a former rocket? I mean because we can all point to the countless trash that Tinman posts about every rocket. Is it because its off track? I mean there are "1 star" Tracy and "2 Star" Yao digs by Tinman thats not on track.

    Man up and at least give an explaination for the reason. I didn't break any rules. Just to have stuff randomly deleted is pretty bunk.
     
    #111 Hak34, Sep 28, 2011
  12. Hak34

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    He is only the league's all time shot blocker because they didn't start keeping track of the stat until the mid 70's, otherwise he probably would be third on the list.

    He is not the Best Rocket of all time Period. That honor belongs to Rudy T. Live with those apples.
     
    #112 Hak34, Sep 28, 2011
  13. tinman

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    don't argue with the karma police

    Stop being a paranoid android, they didn't leave you high and dry.
    maybe they though you were a creep.
     
    #113 tinman, Sep 28, 2011
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    ...and in the absence of games, they turned on each other as if to sate their anxiety with torment.
     
    #114 soupman, Sep 28, 2011
  15. Hak34

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    How typically hypocritical of the tinman.

    You can't on one hand, decree that this "Hakeems award really" then bleet along with the rest of your garbage about MVP's.


    So easy to make you look foolish.
     
    #115 Hak34, Sep 28, 2011
  16. Hak34

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    Oh and since 95 I can spot about 7-8 terrible MVP decisions. Heck go back to Charles Barkley's MVP and increase that number by one.
     
    #116 Hak34, Sep 28, 2011
  17. tinman

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    David Robinson. I said the MVP was the award to the team given to the top player on one of the teams with the best records.

    As you know, it's a regular season award. And during that 95 season, Dream was hurt for much of it. The Rockets season had to deal with Dream, and Maxwell being hurt for many games, plus a trade for Drexler.

    Point out where I said that Robinson should not have been MVP.

    I have no problem with Robinson being named MVP that year. Dream beat him to get to the Finals, I'll take that any day.
     
    #117 tinman, Sep 28, 2011
  18. tinman

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    Barkley made it to the finals. I know Dream had an awesome season that year.

    So the next year, it was the battle of 2 MVPs, Barkley vs Dream.
    then the next year, Robinson vs Dream.

    That means Dream took down two MVPs in his path to winning 2 finals MVPs.

    Then, vs Orlando, he beat a future MVP in Shaq.
     
    #118 tinman, Sep 28, 2011
  19. tinman

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    It's a clutch city thread, down to the brink of elimination, the rockets come back and win
     
    #119 tinman, Sep 28, 2011
  20. Joshfast

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    tinman is correct.
     
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