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UH's "Tier One" distortion

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Smokey, Sep 24, 2011.

  1. Dairy Ashford

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    Not for top grad schools, but going to the biggest public school or the most expensive private school in most larger states will generally net the biggest post-grad networks or the best (most "interesting" and/or "rewarding") internship and entry-level opportunities; and the best chance to have a college experience that doesn't look and feel like a Raiders tailgate.
     
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    When I went to interview for a hedge fund that is the opinion I heard.By the way I didn't go to any of those schools.
     
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    Who ****ing cares?
     
  5. Dairy Ashford

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    I think the Honors College/Merit Scholar types who are deciding between half/full rides at U of H and footing the bill at UT, A&M, Trinity, Tulane, Southwestern, Rice, SMU or what have you. It might not be such an issue if they didn't plaster it all over the campus; they didn't (or couldn't) do that eight or ten years ago when I attended.
     
  6. greenhippos

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    since it seems some of these ladies are having trouble understanding there isn't a "top tier" because all I stated was they are recognized as a carnegie research institution. Which they are....
     
  8. BEAT LA

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    The amount of research that goes on at UH is probably unmatched by that of any university.

    They try to discover new things, and label them. Their hard work does not go unnoticed.
     
  9. greenhippos

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    I don't even know who/or if I am, arguing with right now. All I said was SHSU was deemed a Carnegie Research Institute, and they are.
     
  10. BEAT LA

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    I agree with what you said earlier. No one cares about UH outside of Houston. UT, and Rice are the only two schools people pay attention to outside of Texas.

    Being a Tier One Research Institute is one of the highest honors for a University. It's great for UH to be widely recognized, but it doesn't feel like it's changed much on a national level.
     
  11. astros99

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    Most people are very over protective when talking about their college, nothing wrong with that. Pretty much every school wants to tell their students whatever to make them feel like their at a really nice college and/or made a good choice. If UH wants to tell their students they're tier one, who cares, let them. Not surprised to see many people come in and defend UH fast.

    I mean yeah I agree with other opinions as well like "nobody in NY would recognize UH." But this is where people start getting angry. When you go to UH (or any other school) they pretty much like to tell you that its just as good as going to UT (or some other high ranking school), and you can get the same jobs. I'm not saying I disagree with that at all. If you go to any decent college and get high grades, have an internship, etc..you can get a nice job. This is where other schools like to troll on a school like UH..Out of my high school class, I would people at the top went to ivy league type schools..People after that went to UT if they got accepted, A&M if they didn't..Then after that its pretty much ttu/tx state..and then some people go to UH. When UH offers a half/full ride then people seriously consider it..They offered me full tuition, but I didn't want to go there. For people not going there, UH has the perception as "cougar high" which upsets alot of their students.

    I don't see why its such a big deal that they market themselves as tier 1, but I can see why other people get upset. I've been a student at both TTU/A&M before..And in both schools we get emails all the time about what magazine ranked us where bla bla bla..Simply just the colleges wanting to show students they made a good choice, they're at a good place, etc.
     
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    Lamar University - Tier 1

     
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    You argued that they are Tier 1 in Carnegie's Research rankings, which they are not. Same as Lamar.
     
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    You made the same mistake that I corrected by greenhippo. Lamar is a research university, but not one with "very high research activity," which is the list that is colloquially called "Tier 1."

    Community college
    4 year university
    Research university

    Research university is broken up into several divisions (Tiers) with the highest being institutions with "very high research activity," and UH is in that top category among research universities. SHSU and Lamar are on the Carnegie list as research universities, but they are not in that top tier, therefore not "Tier 1."
     
  15. TheChosenOne

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    green hippos, owned.
     
  16. Ziggy

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    False.

    Michigan, UT, then TAMU, in that order I believe, were the national leaders in job placements in 2006. I feel like TAMU should be included if Rice is. IMO, UT holds the real value on a national stage. Still weary of Rice. Maybe for a particular profession or two.
     
  17. JuanValdez

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    Being Tier 1 isn't only good for attracting students or improving the job prospects for college (lol) students. It impacts grants they can get from the feds and from corporate sources; their pull with the state government; their attractiveness to graduate students, professors, and researchers; their relationships with busiensses that want to leverage the research; and so on. Not to mention the value created by the research itself. People who are saying your UH accounting BA isn't going to impress anyone in New York -- you're kinda missing the point. Any benefit the college and its students receive is a side-effect.
     
  18. BEAT LA

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    Read my type.

    The amount of research that goes on at UH is probably unmatched by that of any university.
     
  19. greenhippos

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    No sweetheart, i never used "Tier 1" in a single post.
     
  20. greenhippos

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    Learn to read hun, it's not hard, if you're having trouble, go reread it a few times, let it sink in.
     

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