If a ****ing pro wrestler can train in MMA for like a year and come in and win the heavyweight title, I'm pretty sure Bruce Lee, one of the most talented, most free-thinking, and hardest-training martial artists to ever live, could have done some serious damage. Bruce Lee, however, was a teacher, philosopher and movie star, not a prizefighter.
GlennRice is asian?? If true what a failure.. I've never heard of an asian that went to DeVry. I thought asians only went to Ivy League and other top univerisities?
He was also involved in gangs and got in plenty of street fights. His history isnt so clean if you read into it.
Try to take me down in real life and I'll smash your back skull in and neck. Easier alternative, just back up then strike at your face. Most take down happened at the edge of the cage when the fighter is trapped. Obviously you didn't realize that. Let me quote you back: you have no clue what you are talking about.
I'm a bit shocked that people don't think Lee would have been an amazing MMA fighter. He was very much about learning many different elements from different martial arts styles, trying to bring together the best of each and forming an overall fighting style he believed was ideal for real combat. We look back at MMA fighters from 15 years ago and think they wouldn't have been all that good in today MMA scene. Today we see such well rounded fighters that have so many skills (At the elite level!). I've got no doubt that if Bruce Lee was alive in the current MMA era, he would have committed himself to traveling the world, learning different styles, studying different techniques and constantly testing himself. By all accounts, physically, he was a freak. He showed a willingness to learn and was open to new ideas. To me, Bruce Lee comes across as the perfect person to dominate in MMA. When you look at the mindset of the elite fighters in the sport, it is so similar to Lee and the way he approached fighting.
Brock Lesnar was an NCAA wrestler with an elite pedigree. He was also blessed with an advantage that Lee wouldn't have had: significantly larger than the majority of his opponents. That size advantage combined with his athleticism and wrestling skills gave him an edge over most other heavyweights. He knew how to get you down and then was too big to handle. At other weights that doesn't exist.
Earlier you said MMA isn't a true form of martial arts and that it is a glorified version of WWE. That is just false. Yes there are rules in MMA. These rules are there to protect the fighters and to get MMA legalized in every state in the US. Have you ever been to an MMA gym? The instructors there are guys who are great in their respective disciplines. Are you trying to imply the instructors are teaching bs? Further, all of these guys know about street fighting. If you think they don't then you are sadly mistaken. About takedowns....you know they happen pretty frequently away from the cage too, right? And if someone is trying to effectively take you down then they are going to be setting it up with strikes and they aren't going to blindly dive in. I think you have been watching too many Krav Maga videos where the attacker has absurdly sloppy takedowns.
That pro wrestler was an NCAA Division 1 wrestling champion and one of the greatest amateur wrestlers of all times. He also was measured by officially by the Minnesota Vikings to be a freak run/jump athlete as well. Don't be so ignorant as to think Triple H could have jumped to MMA and dominated. Brock is a rare athlete with real credentials. Hahaha. Takedowns are actually harder in a cage - nearly every decorated wrestler that has transitioned to MMA has said this. Guys like Johny Hendricks, Josh Koscheck, Phil Davis. NCAA champions. I guarantee that if they shot a double-leg at you, you would not simply back away and strike their face. James Toney thought like you did. That he was a champion boxer and all he had to do was back up and punch Randy Couture in his face. Randy picked his ankle in a flash and Toney went straight down without the use of a cage. He then proceeded to get choked out. So maybe takedown defense isn't so easy? But whatever, those are just professional fighters, not experts like you or I. And for the record - I'm Asian. I'm just not so deluded as to thinking that the reason traditional martial artists aren't dominating is because of the rules.
I'm plenty familiar with Brock's history, and I'm a fan. Obviously he's not your average pro wrestler, but I wanted to prove a point. "One of the greatest amateurs of all time" may be stretching it on your part, but definitely Brock possessed elite skills in a specific style as well as freakish athleticism before making the jump to MMA. Point is, so did Bruce Lee. Let's give Lee the same year or so that Lesnar trained in MMA. Who's to say he couldn't have stepped right in and wrecked shop, as well? As I said earlier, though, Lee wasn't a prizefighter. Organized contests with rules were not his interest. If you watch his movies, he had no problem portraying a hero who punched people in the nuts and stomped them when they were down. That was part of Lee's philosophy on fighting, which was his real passion in martial arts-- not tournaments. Not that there's anything wrong with tournaments! But if Bruce Lee were alive in his prime today, I don't think UFC would hold much interest for him.
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