I still can't believe the way Adam reacted... ...jumping around in front of the camera like a hooligan who thinks he's entitled to everything. Big Brother spoiled him by satisfying his Tori Spelling fantasies. They guy doesn't deserve sht and was a huge pssy throughout the entire game.
Rachel was damn annoying and disrespectful but still deserved to win with the people she was up against. I would like to see what she is like outside the BB house; her biggest detractors on her season are now her friends, so she can't really be that bats**t crazy. I think Jeff is a douche and loves to pick on women. I guess a nice smile and some witty banter will still make people like you even though you're a bully/jackass/sore loser. I'm glad Jordan didn't win; I'm tired of this chick. Did I miss something? I like Danielle don't think she acts any different or less mature than any other 25 year old. I'm glad she went toe-to-toe with Jeff. Only watched 3 full seasons of BB and I've come to the conclusion it's rigged. Just realized it. I guess I'll still watch...
I'm OK with Rachel winning...just ok. The thing that was so unsettling for me was Shelly voting for her. Why even backdoor Jeff if you're gonna vote for a vet in jury? Does Shelly honestly think that Jeff/Jordan/Brenden/Rachel will give a ish about her after this is over? She sold the newbies out for the vets when all the power was in her hands, now she'll be remembered as one of the most pathetic players in BB history.
Eh, I respect Shelly more after last night. I think her turning on Jeff was misguided, but it wasn't about "liking" the newbies or the vets, or making friends afterward. She just didn't think she could beat Jeff in a competition, which is probably true. Her mistake was making the move a bit too early. That said, it was in the spirit of the game and what she thought she needed to do to win. It wasn't about being personal. Rachel against Porsche was the ultimate in game versus personal. The only thing Porsche had going for her was that she didn't offend as many people as Rachel did. Rachel was hands down the better game player, and I think most people respect Shelly for doing the right thing and looking at it as a game. Agree with most here that Adam is a complete buffoon. Can't wait until he sees what people really thought of him. The idea that he had a sure win if he was taken... WTF? Moreover, he sealed his fate with a lot of people with his ridiculous Porsche vote. You call yourself a big gamer, Adam, and then vote bitter? Please. I hope there's another All-Stars soon so that he can be left standing outside when viewers don't vote him back.
Nah, Shelly is just smoothing out the edges. She let Dani make her panic and dumped where she was eating. She could have managed the same plan without being so low character about it. It's all damage control now. Rachel winning is a drag, but she played the last half in a way that made it more tolerable. I'd have been fine with Porsche winning, too, she just probably didn't deserve it quite as much from a competitive standpoint.
the whole "newbies vs. vets" crap is so silly. who the F cares? it's big brother. not the bloods vs. the crips. she didn't sell out her people, she voted for who she thought deserved to win the game. she wasn't friends with rachel or porshe in the house. you are saying that in your opinion, shelli should have voted for who she thought was the nicer person, not who she thought deserved to win the game. since she didn't vote the way you thought she should, and in support of the silly contrived "vets vs newbies", she'll be remembered as "one of the most pathetic players in BB history". that's a bit of a stretch, no?
I don't know about vets vs. newbies, but she blew any chance of having any game with her bad timing and low character execution. Wasn't a season long blunder, but she did pretty much toss her time there in the garbage and come off looking like a dumb ass. And gained nothing from it.
Yup! I don't think he fully understood. He sacrificed himself for the attention. Here's my thing, Rachel came into the house with a sure ally in Brenden and Porche came in with nobody and was stuck with lame a** Keith. I wanted her to win.
precisely. also, the one thing that keeps sticking in my head is, through my browsing of after dark this season, i heard Danielle say on 2 occasions that she spoke to rachel at events in the "offseason", and that she told her how much she respected her gameplay, and the only problem that she had with her, as somebody who respects the game as much as she does, was that at the jury vote, she voted personal and not based on game play, and that made danielle sick. and what did danielle do? that girl is the definition of a spoiled, bitter, brat. rachel winning and jeff winning americas favorite must have been quite the bitter pill to swallow for her.
no, i agree with all that for the most part...I was only referring to AnotherBrother being appalled by her having the audacity to vote for a vet over a newbie to win the game.
Unroll your eyes please, it's not that serious. If you think for one second that Shellys vote wasn't influenced by her perceived friendship with the vets then you're mistaken. Having said that isn't it possible that she voted for who THEY wanted to win?
Shelly is pretty level headed...she voted for rachel because it was the right choice. In the end she didnt get caught up in who she liked or didnt like. I think being close to J and J caused her to be too emotional and that was overpowering her logic, but she snapped out of it eventually. Im not sure why she gets so much hate. She sucks at competitions and knew it. The blame should go to the casting department, not to the player who played based on their strengths. Agree on rachel deserving to win, but i though she was annoying before she got with brendon AND after...i think she just had to bite her tongue in the end to keep from stirring things up. Adam is crazy...he needs to stop trying to be the metal loud mouth because he was anything but that between walking into the house and walking out. I dont see the maturity issue with danielle...i think her attitude mostly comes from having her dad in the game...the guy pretty much dissed her on national tv and she had to sit there and take it, so she gets defensive. She can't be that bad when everyone pretty much liked her. The only people who didnt like her were those who couldnt separate game play from real life (J&J and rachel) and thats why she didnt like them back. Brendon was able to separate both and that's why he was civil with her outside the house. I actually think Porsche could have made a strong case for herself in the end, but she sucks at speeches. She never countered the argument that she floated and didnt play the game for the first half. She needed to say that was all strategy and go into details, instead of repeating she same vague speech about being there to play and compete. Whether it was strategy or not who knows, but things played out well enough for her to take that stance.
anything's possible, but i think, if nothing else, the lady made it apparent that she thinks for herself, and puts the game over possible outside-of-the-house friendships. you're making big assumptions. if she voted for porshe to win, what exactly would her reason have been then? because that's who kalia and danielle wanted to win?? other than her talking crap about rachel(which she did plently about porshe too) and not getting along with rachel much in the house (most of which was predicated on her not wanting rachel to be more closely aligned with jeff and jordan than she was), why exactly would she vote for porshe to win over rachel?
Im not sure why the couples arent a bigger deal here or inside the game....You've got 2 couples, who are now married or practically engaged, so not only is there ZERO chance of separating them as an alliance, but they'll also vote as one within the jury. the earlier you get them out, the less bitter they will be and the less likely they'll even be a jury member...that's why i dont blame shelly or danielle for turning on them. Sure, neither gained anything, but what's the difference between them and Adam now? Nothing. Just a ranking. They were playing for 5th place, third at best.
they would have always been a bigger target than shellie, and she was protected by them until the final 3. assume in the next 4 evictions that one of them will be taken out along the way. by turning on them with 7 players to go, she's showing her true colors, letting everybody know that she can't be trusted, and widening the target on her back 10-fold, including causing at least 2 people to make her their #1 target, who didn't have her on their radar before that.
Individuality? The vote for Rachel, in my opinion, make her look desperate for the approval of the people she wanted to be friends with, who now don't appear to care about her at all. To vote for Porshe would have solidified her position as an individual player who is capable of making her own decisions...right or wrong. I also felt bad for Danielle. Even though she's not the most likeable person, her Dad threw her under the bus and Kahlia's comment towards her was awkward at best.
BORING season, even worse than last season. Wish Evel Dick hadn’t had to leave so early; I hate him, but he would have made it way more interesting. Glad Rachel won, though, and omg I hate ADUMB! How stupid for a superfan of the game to vote for the clearly worse player. At least Shelly voted based on game play because it would have been an even worse season if Porsche won. I love Jordan, but she needs to chill out with the Porsche bikini comments. She was coming off very insecure and catty with that stuff, and Jordan’s way prettier anyway. Now that they’ve had two boring seasons in a row, they better get back to the greatness of seasons 11, 8, 6, and 2 next time around.
How could they be a bigger target, at leas J and J, when everyone liked them? I think waiting and hoping to be that third person is taking a lot of control from her. Also, i think she becomes a bigger target than J and J towards the end, at least in this game. the rest of the house had to turn on the couple alliance eventually and since they all liked and kissed J and J's ass, they would have gone after shelly first...they may have gone after even before Rachel and Brnedon, since they were scared that combo would come after them. I think you have to throw history/logic out the window, because there's never been such a one sided season and that screwed everything up. And just a general comment, i think dominic could have left a big mark on the game, he was a well rounded player, maybe he'll be invited again at some point. And anyone else think Jordan was jealous of Porsche? I think Jeff had a thing for her.
