If 2 or 3 people represent the hundred or so there, then yes, you are correct. There was no applause to that comment from anyone. I would think you are pretty silly if you think 2 or 3 people represent the 'audience'.
America.... were self criticism is not allowed. Seriously the people who booed are just uneducated douche bags who have zero understanding of foreign cultures. I've been raised by a Muslim family all my life and have spoken with several new Muslim immigrants. The could give a rats ass that Americans are "free". What ever that means. There is one main reason and here it is. Why the **** are we spending so much god damn money on Israel?
It's ethnocentrism at its finest. Their culture is different from ours. Our culture is inherently better because it's ours. They must be jealous and threatened by our superior way of life.
Saw the recap this morning, and a plane ticket to Europe is looking better and better. Also, a sharp contrast between the audience in the first debate and this one. When Paul went on a tangent about the IMC, the audience cheered. When Huntsman told the party to stop running from science, he was cheered. When he discussed the Middle East here, he was booed. When Bachmann called vaccinations "big, scray govt injections" she was booed. The fact that people like these can vote and decide our leader really scares me about this country.
That's not much evidence. I'd say your friend is being irresponsible. He's really OK with paying $35,000 for, say, an appendectomy? (that's how much my uninsured quote was... but fortunately I was insured) I can't even imagine the cost of something more serious. If you have the means to pay the cost of care for catastrophic injuries/illnesses, that's fine... but the majority of people willfully without insurance can't pay that. Besides, the people that can afford the cost of care sans insurance aren't who we're talking about anyway.
She did?! Wow. That must've been when I tuned into Pats/Dolphins briefly. That's beyond stupid. The people that think vaccinations aren't safe are the dumbest of the dumb (on the level of the anti-evolution or anti-global warming crowd), and fortunately a thing like avoiding vaccinations is a good, Darwinian way of weeding them out of society. Take warning labels away and let the problem solve itself, I say. [Edit] Have you seen the movie Contagion, yet? It's related to this level of stupidity... see: Jude Law's character.
Can I see this line of thought extrapolated into some of ATW's threads? Or am I justified in wanting to see all GOP/Tea Party/conservative leaders immediatley condem this before I can believe you?
I plan on seeing Contagion this weekend. And yeah she said it, and the audience went wild. Then they interviewed her on NBC and she said that she talked to a women whose "innocent twelve year old daughter became r****ded after she got the vaccination against HPV" she also made sure to mention that the women was real.
Hmm, the HPV thing is a little bit different though. Mandates for vaccinations are arguable; the effect of them, however, is not. The innocent daughter becoming mentally r****ded is, if real, probably the result of a lack of caution by the administering doctor; some sort of reaction they should've caught but didn't. I'd have to read the story, of course (if it's even true).
She is probably referring to Hannah Poling. And it's a totally dishonest argument. Hannah had a rare genetic disorder that was possibly aggravated by vaccinations. This was the same bull**** case trumpeted by Jenny McCarthy and that the media went ape**** over. You can read about it here.
lmao "2 or 3 people" <iframe width="420" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aFYaRp-qlss" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> You clearly hear 4 or 5 people say "yeah" and several more people hollering in approval.
Actually, you left out a line. It goes more like this: Ron Paul: Thats what freedom is all about, taking your own risk ... (audience applauds) Blitzer: Are you saying society should let him die? Ron Paul: No...(a couple people yell out "yeah") That's a pretty important "No". That "no" seems to indicate that Ron Paul thinks the hypothetical patient should be treated. Well then, who pays, Mr. Paul? I'd like to hear how he answered the rest of the question, because it's a legitimate concern.
You'll never get a straight answer to a question like that. They only have two options, its either society pays for it with higher insurance costs, or the guy doesn't get the care he needs to live. I think that same obstacle would be in the way of the average person when asked a question like this. Are they really going to tell someone (everyone knows dozens of people who are uninsured) "nope sorry, you don't get treatment"? Absolutely not. But you've got people like Bachmann saying no one should force you to buy anything. If she wasn't getting free government provided health care do you think her attitude might be different when she's forced to pay sky high health insurance premiums to help offset the people who don't have any at all? Absolutely.
That would be the explanation I figured would exist. She acts like it's some frequent/random occurrence when it's simply intellectually dishonest to imply such a thing. It scares people away from a good vaccination that could save their life in the future... people like Michelle Bachmann are hurting humanity, as far as I'm concerned, with their lies and deceptive tactics. It sickens me.
Let me help you Life-saving aorta replacement (90% of people die from aortic dissections if left untreated) - $500,000 Cancer treatments are more than that, thankfully my two relatives that got cancer had some form of insurance, but it still cost them a TON of money.
That's a whole helluva lot of money to expect churches to pony up. And you can't mandate that churches pay for treatment (“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”) That would basically be taxing churches, and that's a no-no. So what happens when our hypothetical patient ends up in a coma and no church steps up? And hospitals? Even if they gave the treatment as "charity", the money still has to come from somewhere. If they spend more (treating the uninsured), they gotta charge more (from those who CAN pay). One way or another, We The People are footing the bill. At least with a national health care plan, the care can be managed to SOME extent.
