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Tea Party Debate

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    Some highlights:

    9-9-9 Plan

    A strong dollar being good for bringing jobs back to america- Do they know why china keeps its currency low?

    Do they realize that the bailouts were done under bush?

    How to republicans expect to win with these candidates?
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    Whoever brings up Rick Perry's HPV mandate needs to be punished for making me google HPV.

    Caution to all of you: Do not look up "images" when searching for the term "HPV."
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Tarriffs.....any country that doesn't have an open market to us, must pay a tarriff to sell their goods in our country.

    DD
     
  4. justtxyank

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    Perry is drowning is this debate. He got whipped hard over the HPV vaccine issue and the audience really doesn't like him on immigration.

    I wonder if this debate hurts Perry in the polls.
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    So Tea Party members cheer about the idea of letting the uninsured die.

    These people really prefer the world of Charles Dickens or Road Warrior to the present day.

    I like having frequent debates in elections. Allows these guys more opportunity to expose themselves to America.

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  6. justtxyank

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    These debates are very illuminating.

    The crowd chanting "YES!" when Wolf Blister asked if the uninsured should be allowed to die I was stunned.

    The crowd booing Ron Paul when he said the Muslims didn't attack us because we are free was interesting.
     
  7. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    No one should be surprised. A bunch of extremists doing what they enjoy doing... playing the fool, with fools.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Really?

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  9. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Nice jab at Perry, Idiot Good Hair:

    Perry uncovers the scam of the century

    Frank Cerabino, The Palm Beach Post

    This column is to all of you Ponzi schemers.

    Yes, I'm talking to you, Grandma and Grandpa. Step away from the mailbox.

    We're on to your devious criminal enterprise, your "Social Security" scam.

    That's dirty money you're frittering away on your prescriptions and your other fancy-shmancy discretionary lifestyle choices.

    Nice try. You had us fooled, making us think that you were really just paying all your working lives into some high-minded, solvent New Deal program that provided retirement income, disability benefits and life insurance to millions of Americans.

    Social Security. What a sinister plot! We should have figured it out, because it had the name "social" in it.

    Oh, we were so fooled, especially by the way that elderly in poverty shrunk dramatically after the program was enacted. Nice smoke screen. Way to divert us from our freedom quest.

    We should have relied on our hallowed 18th-century sense of morality for guidance. After all, the Founding Fathers never did payroll withholding for their slaves. How did we let this Social Security happen to ourselves?

    And while the actual scheme run by Charles Ponzi was only able to sustain itself for 200 days before collapsing, you Social Security scammers really outdid yourselves by keeping your outrageous flim-flam game running since 1935 with a surplus every year.

    Until last year.

    Gotcha!

    Yes, for the first time, the money paid into Social Security was less than the benefits paid out. With the recession in full swing, all those out-of-work wage earners weren't putting enough into the kitty. The worker-to-retiree ratio became problematic.

    Sure, there's a $2.4 trillion trust fund built up over the years to help make up the gap. And the program can sail along on autopilot for another 25 years without missing full payments to recipients.

    But the jig was up. We're finally on to the plot to ruin America by sparing millions of elderly people from living in poverty during their last days in the greatest — and richest — country on earth.

    And it took a hero to point it out.

    Thank the Lord for his friend, Gov. Rick Perry, who just might be the next president of the United States, unless the Republicans can find somebody new who seems even more refreshingly monosyllabic and cheerfully simple.

    Perry finally blew the whistle on your criminal enterprise.

    "It is a Ponzi scheme to tell our kids that are 25 or 30 years old today, you're paying into a program that's going to be there," he said during a debate last week. "Anybody that's for the status quo with Social Security today is involved with a monstrous lie to our kids, and it's not right."

    Sure, Social Security could remain solvent with some adjustments to the tax rate or the retirement age. But that would only be furthering this criminal enterprise.

    Perry seems to be more interested in abolishing Social Security, at least if you believe what he wrote in his book "Fed Up!," which was published last year. Perry wrote that Social Security is a "failure" and a mistake from the start, a constitutionally suspect program that did "violently toss aside any respect for our founding principles of federalism and limited government."

    So thank you, Perry. Thank you for standing up against the scourge of economic security of retirees for the past 76 years. And shame on you, Grandma and Grandpa.

    As Perry brings his campaign to Florida this month, the home state of so many of you Ponzi schemers, I hope you find it in your hearts to respect the founding principles of federalism and renounce being co-conspirators in this monstrous lie.

    You might want to consider ripping up your checks and using the shreds as a welcome mat for your next president.

    http://www.statesman.com/opinion/perry-uncovers-the-scam-of-the-century-1849111.html
     
  10. Batman Jones

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    And at the last debate the biggest applause of the night was for the mere mention of the record number of executions under Perry in Texas.

    Maybe the GOP should push for more of a "pro-death" agenda. It seems to be popular with their base.
     
  11. Deckard

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    I'm relishing the thought that Perry's decision to run for President will not only expose the man for what he is to America, but to Texas, as well. Perhaps Texans will finally pull their heads from the sand, give them a shake, and clean the dirt out of their ears. They've been comatose for a decade now with regard to Perry, asleep in a morass of political ennui, ignoring the corrupt fool's record while holding the Governor's office.
     
  12. Phillyrocket

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    This is all very simple tomorrow let's repeal EMTALA so that ERs can turn uninsured people who can't pay cash away and then just halt all SS payments.

    Every radio, newspaper and TV station will be required to cover this explaining in plain english that Republicans like Perry and Paul Ryan desire this and so as an experiment the US will try it for 6 months.

    If the country survives the riots and violence hopefully finally the GOP will be seen for what they are and never taken seriously ever again.
     
  13. rhadamanthus

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    In a "holy **** ya'll are ****ed up" kind of way, yeah.

    And yet, a good amount of the working poor vote republican.

    Not interesting at all. It's exactly what they've been meticulously cultured to believe. It's about as ridiculously ignorant and nonsensical as Obama proudly claiming we are a nation that "refuses to live in fear" this past Sunday - and yet folks ate that crap up too for the same reasons.

    "The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.
    ...they feel that their own version was what happened in the sight of God, and that one is justified in rearranging the records accordingly."


    -Orwell, Notes on Nationalism, May 1945
     
  14. Carl Herrera

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  15. Turbo

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    This.

    Sums up my feelings exactly.
     
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    I feel the same way. I will be celebrating if he wins the primary over Romney. He will be fully exposed in November.
     
  17. Batman Jones

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    I got this rep for my post in this thread:

    I have thought it over and after careful consideration I have been persuaded to stop meddling with nature. Hopefully now my thoughts won't continue to contribute to the destruction of the world.
     
  18. Carl Herrera

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    Pretty sure that's an argument against medicine itself. Why do we even work on vaccines for polio and small pox under this logic.
     
  19. KingCheetah

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    As you should have -- excellent point.
     
  20. hairyme

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    Man, this is just getting beyond belief. I don't so much as bat an eye when the Tea Party/GOP employs racist rhetoric. It didn't surprise me at all when the crowd at the last debate cheered Rick Perry's execution count. But the enthusiastic display at the notion of letting an uninsured person die?!? WOW.

    The cultural (de)evolution that this country is experiencing is equally incredible and frightening. Just think--it only took the concentrated efforts of a political party and their dedicated media arm a couple years to whip up the ignorant underbelly (well, the caucasian part of it at least) of this country into a foaming-at-the-mouth frenzy! Granted, every population has their ignorant peoples, but under normal circumstances, their voices are attenuated by the collective commonsense of their surroundings. It's scary that the ignorant have seemingly united and won't shut up...

    Anyway, here's the clip of Ron Paul getting booed for his 9/11 comments:

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    If you want to skip straight to the booed content, then skip ahead to about 3min; though, the whole video provides a good bit of context for Paul's comments. At first, I was surprised at the applause at his statement--surely no warm-blooded right-winger in this country would cheer on the suggestion that Muslims don't hate us for our freedoms! But then I realized that the 25 dedicated Ron Paul supporters there could easily clap with the fervor of a 100 men at least...
     

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