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Republican Nuttery

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Nov 30, 2010.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Was that her direct quote or did it have something to do with the government forcing the inoculation of a 12 year old girl?

    Do you think the government should force parents to inoculate their children or should those decisions be left to the parents?
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    I think the govt. should be able to force inoculations. They already do. It has almost completely wiped out Polio. We should keep going.
     
  3. Ubiquitin

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    Should be left to the government for the good of the public.
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You'd have no problem with the government forcing you to get a flu shot? If an HIV inoculation were created, would you have a problem if they forced you or your 12 year old child to receive it?
     
  5. Commodore

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    Nobody gives a crap about Gardasil or even knows what it is.

    If the best attack on Perry is that he hates cancer too much, you are going to lose the election.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    They force people to get all kinds of vaccines. In order to enter public school children have to be vaccinated. I'm all in favor of it. As I said the track record with vaccinations is fantastic.
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Are you in favor of the government forcing you to get a flu shot (for example)? After all, many thousands more get the flu and die from the flu every year than cervical cancer.

    Let's then expand the flu to the bird flu and the swine flu. Should you be forced to get those as well? How about Tetanus? Meningitis?

    In other words, where does it stop? Where should it stop?
     
  8. rhadamanthus

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    The only reason this post has some merit is because our "democracy" has basically been litigated into only two parties.

    If enough folks left the GOP, reform would be unnecessary, as the GOP would cease to matter.
     
  9. rhadamanthus

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    With science. A flu-shot is particularly useful for children and the elderly, and should be mandated if the science can prove the risk-reward trade is acceptable.

    Period.
     
  10. Sooner423

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    And that about sums it up. Wow... This **** is depressing.
     
  11. glynch

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    Rhad, please don't repeat this propaganda (bs fear mongering) of the right wingers/libertarians as it aids them in destroying social security. Social security will be there. It is sound from a number/economic point of view, with an 80% at least payout for 75 years and a 100% payout easily for as long as one can project with some minor changes, including collecting FICA on high income folks. The only way it fails is if the right can talk people out of it. You seem to be accepting their line.

    Please google Dean Baker and social security to get the facts if you haven't been following the issue.

    In addition I should note that with 87% of the population polling that social security has been good for the country (sorry libertarians and right wingers!) it is politically impossible that it would not be bailed out by the full faith and credit of the US. If the checks were not to come out next month, you would see Egyptian style street action and every GOP congressman except for a few libertarian/Tea Party types leading the charge to bail it out.
     
  12. glynch

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    Ditto,, McMark, an amazing analysis of the present GOP and their destructiveness, as only an insider could deliver. Well worth the read.
     
  13. glynch

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  14. glynch

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    Oh, it is so complex, so let's don't even try. Let's let many folks die unnecessarily and spend trillions on their health care because it is so difficult to decide where to draw the line.
     
  15. rhadamanthus

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    This is true. I meant it more along the lines of "I expect clueless morons to vote other morons into office who will rob me of the benefits I freaking paid for."
     
  16. Dubious

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    Think the Republican Party is not run behind closed doors?

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  17. jo mama

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    you better give a crap. this is a perfect example of ricky-boy's cronyism.

    perry's chief of staff became a consultant for the company that makes gardasil (merck was also a perry donor) and shortly afterwards ricky-boy tried to mandate all 12 year old girls take it - despite the fact that it was not properly studied and was found to have harmful side effects.

    its not about ricky-boy hating cancer - its about him loving lobbyists and corporate donors and putting them over the welfare of the people.

    it is yet another in a very long list of examples of ricky-boy not acting very "tea-party".
     
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    Roemer's message is that the public's interest has been corrupted by the money/lobbyist system in Washington. Why isn't he the Tea Party's candidate?

    (other than the fact that he looks and sounds like a Southern Baptist preacher)
     
  19. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    One of the single largest tax increases in history would be a minor change? "Collecting FICA on high income folks" as you put it, which is actually collecting FICA on high income dollars (FICA is currently paid on the first $106,800 of income even from those evil rich people), is a ~6% tax increase on every dollar over that threshold (with a corresponding tax increase on their employers). It also destroys whatever illusion there is that social security is some kind of retirement savings, get out what you pay in system (unless you plan on giving REALLY big social security checks to some very wealthy people, which would destroy any solvency benefit gained from this scheme). Congress couldn't pass a 2-3% tax rate increase on the top bracket, but you think a 12% increase is a minor change that could actually happen?
     
  20. glynch

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    Well that is one way to do it. Let's put it to a referndum of US voters. We could also say add another 1% or so to the existing scheme. This would sort of be like the conservative hero Reagamn did before the conservatives got Tea Party bat crazy. Of course we could just add some general tax revenues and bail it out like we did the bankers. Let's put that to a referendum. I suppose it might be tought to pass it with a Congress beholden to the top 1%-- the type of system you obectively support.

    It must chape you that social security is so popular except for right wing ideoogues.
     

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