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2 teens racing on gessner kill a mother and two children. jail time or probation?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SeabrookMiglla, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Member

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    Why are you hating on the lawyer? You don't get money for turning in your client. Being a lawyer doesn't mean making sure justice is dealt, it means defending your client and attacking your opposition.

    Personally, I think those kids should be locked up but the lawyer would be throwing his career away if he didn't defend his client.
     
  2. Dei

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    I agree with this sentiment.
     
  3. Rocket River

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    Agreed.

    At the end of the day . . . people are dead.
    There has to be some major consequence to that
    I am not saying 25 to life but . . .
    No license and reporting for probation every month is not enough.

    Rocket River
     
  4. OmegaSupreme

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    How much, if anything, do you know about the draftee military?

    BTFU
     
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  6. meh

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    I've never understood the idea that teens can't make rational decisions. I understand that when I was young, I did stupid stuff. I know my friends did stupid stuff. But there's a difference between doing stupid stuff and not knowing the consequences of doing stupid stuff.

    For example, I know I was more likely to do drugs as a teen. But I also knew what would happen if I get busted. It's not that I don't understand that I'd be punished, just like I know I'd get a zero if I don't turn in my homework. It's one thing for the mind to try things that are more emotion-based than logic-based. It's another to not understand the consequences.

    IMO, those two kids knew they were doing dangerous things. They knew the risks involve to them and others. But they chose to do it anyway. They should receive punishment because they're not innocent.
     
  7. RocketForever

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    One of the best posts I have read in a while. I agree with everything you said there.
     
  8. moose

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    Wow, this angers me. Probation?! How does that even happen. Everything is wrong with our judicial system.
     
  9. Johndoe804

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    You guys are stupid.
     
  10. SuperVon

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    deep heat to the balls would probably set them straight for the rest of their lives.
     
  11. wallyj12

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    You want to keep killers out of prison because you are afraid they won't be able to find a job....smh
     
  12. Dei

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    Children today have way more exposure to things that we didn't have back in the day. They are much more intelligent now than, let's say, someone who was 17 in 1991. They knew better than to race down a busy street like Gessner. I say lots of jail time.
     
  14. SeabrookMiglla

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    after reading many posts- i would agree with give or take 1 -5 yrs, depending on their backgrounds. heavy probation and extensive community service would have to go along with that as well. it is true that it was an extremely reckless act, no different than intoxication manslaughter. i have not dug too deep into this story, although some ppl were making assertions that the defense was being unsympathetic towards the victims. if that IS the case, i would seriously take that into account if i was responsible for giving the verdict.
     
  15. BetterThanEver

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    Free to kill again like Van Der Sloot. Brilliant. If these teens came from poverty, they would be sentenced to years in jail.
     
  16. Rashmon

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    My 11 year old understands the stupidity and danger of racing cars down a busy street.

    Learned it from driving like a maniac in Paradise City.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    "They can take the Black"

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  18. Apps

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    Ehhh... I really don't see how you could spin this any other way. Two humans of the legal adult age were going twice the speed limit in a high-risk zone and subsequently killed three innocents on accident. That's not selective language, that's just fact. That's not probation-time crime, that's manslaughter.

    Are these two adults being held out of jail because people are afraid that they'll turn into criminals in the future? Another poster already said what I was thinking... these two legal adults are already criminals. They heinously broke a traffic law which led to the subsequent death of three innocents.

    A couple lifted phrases off of Wikipedia in regards to manslaughter: "Manslaughter is a legal term for the killing of a human being, in a manner considered by law as less culpable than murder."

    "...manslaughter, on the other hand, requires a lack of any prior intention to kill or create a deadly situation."
     
  19. greenhippos

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    They deserve more than they're getting. No one has brought up the fact a husband lost his wife and two of their kids, he'll have to raise the other 2 by himself now. What about the kids? They'll go the rest of their life without their mother. When they get old enough to comprehend everything and ask what happened to the guys who killed their mom, the dad can tell them "they were in jail for a few weeks, but they've been free for years"

    I read a few comments and like someone already said, I figured they were both 16, maybe even younger. But to read that they were 18 and 19......There is zero chance that if the two men were black or mexican and the family killed were affluent and white they wouldn't be given 10 years minimum.
     
  20. Rocket River

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    Basic Truth there

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    Rocket River
     
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