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Texas A&M to SEC

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Rockets1616, Aug 12, 2011.

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  1. Icehouse

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    Ok, so nothing was "signed" but I think the poster was just trying to note that A&M has to pay something to leave.

    I don't think there will be peace this time around. Just a hunch. But I guess a good sign will be if the Thanksgiving Day game is still on.
     
  2. Major

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    Oh right - sorry. There was some talk last year about the Big12 teams coming up with a stronger agreement that had much more punitive penalties than what NU/CU dealt with. That's the part that doesn't seem to exist - A&M would still be subject to the same basic stuff NU/CU had to pay.

    Yeah, if I were the Big12, I certainly wouldn't negotiate it down.
     
  3. sammy

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    I was listening to the radio this morning and they had a football guy on. He characterized A&M's schedule as "brutal". I was surprised to hear this since the Big 12 is such a craptastic conference.
     
  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Good luck. The Big 12 needs BYU but UH would be fun.
     
  5. Major

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    Another article with no real definitive sources so take it with a grain of salt, but maybe some insight into OU's position. If they decide to flex their muscles, they have a ton of leverage here because they could crush this conference once and for all, if they wanted to.

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...articleid=20110830_202_B1_Whatif864434&r=4078


    What if the Big 12 throws a party and nobody comes because the main host is an insufferable jerk?


    Well, at least nobody on the A-list of invitees.

    And what if the co-hosts get so fed up they leave their own party, letting the jerk celebrate his independence alone?

    Those ugly scenarios could play out in front of everyone in the college sports world to see. And the Big 12 will have nobody to blame but Texas.

    As Texas A&M continues to clear the legal and political hurdles required to leave the Big 12 for the SEC, the potential backwash from the Aggies' move gets dirtier by the day.

    Texas' arrogance continues to stir this mess. And when A&M becomes the third school the Longhorns chase off, the Big 12's A-list of schools it hopes to invite as replacements will wonder why they should join a league that has also ran off Nebraska and Colorado.

    Yes, there is no shortage of D-list schools that lust for the opportunity to replace A&M. That's "D" as in desperate, which the Big 12 would be if extending those invitations is the only way to survive.

    The Big 12's A-list reportedly includes Notre Dame, Arkansas, Arizona, Arizona State, Pittsburgh, BYU, West Virginia, Louisville and Air Force.

    "They've looked at all those options and many others," said a source familiar with the Big 12's expansion committee.

    The first four schools apparently wouldn't come even if Texas was handing out millions to league members instead of trying to hoard it all for itself.

    And it's a stretch to A-list the other five. B-list (as in bearable) is probably where you'd find them, although Pittsburgh and West Virginia could bring A-games.

    "People need to wake up," said a source familiar with the BCS conferences. "There are just no Big 12-level schools out there."

    The level of big names in the Big 12 will drop another significant notch if A&M gets its wish to no longer party with the Longhorns. But the Big 12 could definitely turn out the lights should Oklahoma decide it's swallowed all the burnt orange baloney it can stomach.

    The league's 15-year party would be over if the Sooners deal the fatal blow to Texas' dictatorship. If OU joins the stampede out of the Big 12, Oklahoma State's Cowboys must have the gumption to ride shotgun.

    OU splitting up with its Red River Rival probably remains about as long a shot as Notre Dame joining the Big 12. But it apparently isn't as long as it was even a few months ago.

    Several sources confirmed the A&M situation has developed some serious strains in the OU-Texas marriage. OU, like those who still want to make the Big 12 work, is reportedly fed up with Texas seeing how far it can push the others around with tactics like the Longhorn Network.

    "Texas seems to be losing friends in more places than the Big 12 over all this," said a source with deep roots in college football. "Having a network is fine. But it's just the inference that they are trying to play by a somewhat different set of rules than anyone else that creates problems."

    OU athletic director Joe Castiglione has fought as hard as any Big 12 official to keep the league together. Castiglione has consistently maintained it's in the best interest of everyone if OU and Texas continue to work together.


    Castiglione is on the five-member expansion committee. But some insiders wonder if he's decided it's time to flex some of the Sooners' undeniable leverage.

    Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds continues to insist the Longhorns want the Big 12 to stay intact. The loss of A&M would mean Dodds absolutely needs OU to stay the course for the league to survive.

    Texas has already hinted that its storied football series with A&M would end if the Aggies join the SEC. That didn't seem to deter A&M's strong desire to put its hated rival in the Aggies' rearview mirror.

    Would OU, emboldened with its added muscle, have the backbone to threaten to end the Red River Shootout if bossy-boots Texas doesn't back off and treat its fellow Big 12 members as equals?

    And if people outside the Big 12 are indeed growing weary of Texas playing by its own rules, will they band together? Perhaps a coalition could convince Texas that life as an independent isn't so hot if you're treated like an outcast.

    Good luck with that. Remember Dodds' comment 14 months ago when realignment was sweeping through the Big 12?

    "We did not start this," he said. "If we need to finish it, we'll finish it."

    Yup, it's Texas' A-list party and they'll do what they want, even if they have to do it alone.

    And with the Longhorns, that's "A" as in, well, you can fill in the blank.
     
  6. Ziggy

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    Billy Gillispie'd
     
  7. Lil Pun

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    I've heard a lot of flack from Texas fans about how Arkansas fans were so...classless but judging from the responses in this thread Texas fans are really no better. SHEESH!!!
     
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    If OU and OSU go to the Pac 12 I'm gonna be pissed we missed out on that boat.
     
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    BYU might be more trouble than they're worth. But we'll see.
     
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    Yeah, especially in the other sports, but they managed it in the MWC.
     
  11. gucci888

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    OU is apparently working on launching it's own network. I don't think they'd be doing this if they were seriously thinking about jumping ship.
     
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    Are they? Even after <del>seeing</del> not seeing UT's?
     
  13. Baseballa

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    Yes.

    It will be interesting to see how A&M reacts when other schools, even ones in the (gasp) SEC, start putting feelers out about their own network.
     
  14. Rocketman95

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    well, i haven't heard ut's fans cheer the injury or an opposing team's player while playing their fight song like arkansas did in '02.
     
  15. garrinr

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    The SEC contract prohibits that... this is why TAMU is going...cohesiveness.

    SUCKERS
     
  16. sammy

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    What if the big dogs (FL, Bama, LSU) make a stand together and want one? Genuinely asking if it's even a possibility..
     
  17. Ziggy

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    No other BCS conference allows for it. If they did, the moment Auburn put a feeler out Bama would check em'. Checks & balances brother.
     
  18. Baseballa

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    SEC schools are free to do whatever they please with their third tier rights, just like Big 12.

    You can scream "SUCKERS" all you want, but when the LHN proves successful I can assure you that other big name programs will want to explore the option as well. Or you can just sit back and assume that Texas is the only school in the country that has a goal of maximizing profits. Either way, have fun over there.
     
  19. Rocketman95

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    they certainly are the best at doing that now and a dead conference anchored by them was able to get a $150 million a year tv deal after cu and nu left.

    my dream scenario would be the politics behind adding the 14th team in the SEC makes them not want to add aggy and they're stuck as tcu's replacement in the mwc. :)
     
  20. SamFisher

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    As others have stated, you have to pick a stance on the LHN - either it's a Trojan horse monster that will provide an unfair advantage - or it's a pathetic laughable joke desitned to go down with the Edsel and Crystal Pepsi as an abject failure.

    Thus far we've heard both from the fighting Texas Aggie contingent, what was perfectly acceptable to them back when it was first announced then all of a sudden became an intolerable precursor (pretext?) to them leaving, but is now really just a laughingstock for suckers. Y U NO MAKE SENSE?
     
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