Wait a minute: they shouldn't cut him, but yet they should never have signed him? Congratulations, you've argued in a circle.
You're taking two different arguments/scenarios (i.e. one where the player decided to not play hard, and one where the coaches were unable to make him as good as he could've been) and piecing them together. So, no. And beyond that, where did I say they shouldn't cut him? I said it proves a failure if they *do* cut him and he goes on to play well elsewhere. As in, one way or another, whether the coaches couldn't figure out how to use him to his fullest potential, or they drafted/signed a guy who had no intention on playing well, that it is still a failure. Doing the right thing by cutting a guy (whether he does or does not go on to play well) does not absolve you from criticism for a failed acquisiton in the first place, which seems to be what a lot of people around here are floating. And that's just bunk.
does this happen when a player during interviews at a combine says "please draft me, but keep in mind, i have no intention of playing well"? i don't know who's said that. if you want to fault them for drafting molden, fire away. but if he goes on to a good career and someone wants to come back and b**** about the texans releasing him, i'm going to call them out on it.
Uprising, we are disappoint. At this rate, I don't know if we can justify another contract extension. You're on the hot seat, bro.
Let's put it this way. I wouldn't be upset with them for releasing him. I'd be upset with them for either 1) drafting a guy who was lazy or 2) not being able to figure out how to use/coach him to fulfillment. (especially when someone else obviously did) Sound reasonable?
but you're assuming they knew he had no intention on trying, he could have said and did all the right things... and maybe he did actually try but the game just didn't "click" inside his head, despite his previous efforts. Sometimes a player just comes into his own by the natural progression.
I don't remember what it was, but thanks. This conversation about a hypothetical on Antwan freaking Moulden has gone far enough. Texans need to win so we can stop these kinds of pointless circlejerks.
Talk about WTH - what did I have to do with this discussion? Did it ever dawn on you that maybe that's the issue, Donny? My defense of Kubiak/Williams, such as it was (hilarious?), has no relevance to Moulden, a third-round pick who's had ample opportunity to win a job here. So, again - what was the point of calling me out?...
i just saw this edit...it probably has to do with your martyring of ziggy in the other thread. and how stupid everyone was for freaking out about the texans made a cut that no one even blinked at.
Wanted to refresh my memory rather than play make believe: http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-wrap-up-draft-with-3-offensive-4-1773553.php http://www.chron.com/sports/campbel...-CB-Molden-better-for-taking-hard-1778743.php Wasn't much else that I could find quickly - but the snatches I got were mostly in agreement - there wasn't expectations that he'd come in and start, that he was drafted for upside with the understanding that he needed additional development to meet his potential. As I see it, he was an injury prone guy (couldn't see that coming) and the organization simply failed to surround him, and plenty of others, with proper coaches that could develop him. I'm not mad for them drafting the guy - the draft is chock full of misses and dice rolls, and you just can't bank on 3rd rounders being key starters. If I don't like something, it's that Kubiak, by way of McNair, didn't hold his staff or some of his players accountable. It's nearly universal in pro leagues - if you struggle to select and develop young talent well, you're going to be crushed by the teams that do. The Texans molded the offensive guys well, Bush was good with the linebackers, but the secondary in particular withered with season after season of neglect by the organization as a whole. I wish Molden well, he's young, he's got good size, and I hope he does latch on with an organization that can get him to where he needs to be. But if we're placing stock in Vance Joseph, it can't be a good sign that he couldn't survive this round of cuts. Sure, there have been Babins and Tramon Williams....but there've been more CC Browns, Petey Faggins, David Carrs, etc. Okoye may prosper as a Bear, but I won't regret the Texans cutting him. For fun, as I was browsing 2008 articles No Fibbing League
do these clowns realize how much more money gambling brings to the nfl in adverstising dollars including fantasy football. get over it.
Who is Estrada? Is that something Foster posted, or this Estrada character? /doesn'tunderstandtwittersometimes
Foster replied to Estrada. The first part is Foster. Then after the "RT", it's the original statement by Estrada.
Where is Trindon Holliday? I am tired of watching Jacoby Jones returning the ball, he goes lateral and backwards, and hesitates too much. If the Texans want to improve on their crummy field position they need someone who can gain yards. I think it was Ray Lewis who once said "You can't gain yards going backwards", but that often time seems to be the case with our returners, Slaton included. Hopefully the Texans could have addressed this sooner than the 4th pre-season game by sending Holliday out to return punts. Whoever nabs the final WR spot needs to be our return specialist.
You would think by now Twitter would have come up with a way to make that more clear. It's always hard to tell what are replies ... some people just reply at the end and some do it at the beginning.
Trindon has been injured with a hamstring injury...he was unable to play for the first 3 games. On a different note, Mike Wallace was on Rome today and he said that Santonio Holmes and Larry Fitzgerald were the two best receivers in the league. I lol'd and changed the station to 95.7 FM.
