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[Official] Texans Offseason 2011

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 3, 2011.

  1. liljojo

    liljojo Member

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    Well, I'm certainly not breaking up with the Texans, so I just go all in every year and let them jerk my heart around. I tell myself it's part of the "fan experience."
     
  2. msn

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    you know those games you mention where the Texans were in them and in position to win? yeah, they lost those games, and that is what losers do. Lose. Then make excuses.

    9 years of excuses; I *want* the Texans to win, but I'm not setting myself up for another snow job. The Texans have everything to prove.
     
  3. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    so fans don't have the intellectual capacity to realize every single team has misses on the players they acquire or release and to expect perfection in that area is absurd or the intellectual honesty to not b**** about releasing a player a year or two after the fact when the original release was met with either indifference or even applause?

    if molden goes on to have a great career and there are any of us left on this board b****ing that the texans let him go, that person should do us all a favor and stop commenting on sports in general.
     
  4. Hey Now!

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    The night-and-day difference on the defensive side of the ball is eye-opening, even for me. I mean, I loooooong thought a defensive architect was overdue and I liked the Phillips hiring. But I've been overwhelmed, especially given the lockout, how quickly Wade has turned things around. He's made smart personnel moves; his aggressive schemes are actually working; and he has maximized existing talent, giving new life to several vets (Antonio Smith looks like he might be a beast this year; Quin has pretty seamlessly moved to safety; and, dare I say it: Kareem Jackson looks better)...

    I've thought all along that if the defense was just mediocre, we'd push 9 wins. If they're actually competent and able to make stops and force turnovers......... this could be a really, really interesting year. I'm looking forward to it all going up in smoke week 1 after Schaub breaks a collarbone.
     
  5. rolyat93

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    Why you mad America?
    <img src="http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9646/whyyoumad.jpg"/>
     
  6. DonkeyMagic

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    what's FF? Football?

    nice response though.
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    Your red herring about perfection aside, you think that because somebody applauds a move initially that turns out to be bad, that it completely absolves the front office of any kind of criticism and you shouldn't be allowed to point out that mistake?

    Wtf kind of reasoning is that?

    Even if it is the right move to let him go, (i.e. he's never going to play well here), it doesn't absolve anybody from criticism for the failure. Especially if he goes on to play well somewhere else. That is just even more proof that the management either 1) didn't know what they had or 2) didn't know how to use it. Whether they let him go too early, couldn't coach him up to his potential, or never should've acquired him in the first place (i.e. bad system fit), in any scenario, it's a f*** up and no matter how much you boo player X.

    If there's anybody here who expects fans to not be fans, or to not be critical of management or players, that person should do us all a favor and stop commenting on sports in general.
     
  8. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Is that Erik Estrada from Phoenix?
     
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  9. DonkeyMagic

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    i see your point but a few things to mention in this scenario...1) the people who managed Molden in prior years are/were not the same now, i.e. DC and secondary coach. In this short preseason they may not have had to the time correct his flaws and thus is a product of timing and personnel (they have invested recent picks at CB).

    2) you only focus on the external forces (coaches) on him. You do not take into account that a player can very well get his head right after being cut. It could be an alarm that goes off in his head


    wait...are talking about Molden becoming a good player? bwaahahaha

    But really, Molden got a ton of chances here and it's a shame it never worked out because he has great physical aspects of a corner, e.g.graet size, very fast and pretty strong. I wouldnt be surprised if he eventually becomes a decent nickel guy...hell, he's only 26

    But at some point you have to cut bait,
     
  10. msn

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    You left out
    3) the player didn't decide to grow up until found his ass cut and unemployed.

    The view you set forth, IMO, doesn't embrace enough real possibilities. Life is *never* that simple.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    In that case, they shouldn't have signed him in the first place.

    Part of scouting is finding players who will play to their potential.
     
  12. DonnyMost

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    Yep. And you can still call a spade a spade, bad signing, bad coaching, bad whatever... still a screw up. And if that guy goes on to good things, then damn, monumental screw up.
     
  13. Ricksmith

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    Fantasy Football
     
  14. Cannonball

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    Which makes no sense since the NFL would still exist and Foster would still be in it. The NFL would exist without fantasy football. Fantasy football wouldn't exist without the NFL. @estradaphx is moron.
     
  15. v3.0

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    That reminds me of and makes me wonder about Jason Babin, what would he have done in this Wade Phillips defense as an OLB edge rusher? Granted he's really a 4-3 DE, but he was drafted by the Texans to be an OLB pass rusher under Caper's 3-4 defense.
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    but again, your assuming his performance had everything to do with the texans and nothing to do with him.
     
  17. DonnyMost

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    As management, if you drafted/signed a player that had no intention on trying, that's on you. They are paid millions of dollars to make sure they *don't* acquire crappy personnel, no?
     
  18. Rocketman95

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    here's a hint...if your standard is perfection, there's not a team out there that you can't call ****ty. EVERY team has released a player that has gone on to a productive career. EVERY team has made terrible draft selections. EVERY team has signed a free agent that turned out to be a bust.
     
  19. DonnyMost

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    Why do you keep bringing this total non-starter up? Who the hell said anything about perfection?

    I make a joke about Ric's pre-emptive defense of Kubiak a la Tramon Williams (which was hilarious btw), and you get totally bent out of shape and jump down my throat about it.

    Seriously, what the hell, man?
     
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  20. Uprising

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    Texans cheerleaders at SFA, got some goodies. Signed poster and swimsuit calender.
     

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