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If Chris Mullin made the Hall of Fame...

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by meshflesh, Aug 24, 2011.

  1. meshflesh

    meshflesh Member

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    If chis mullin made the hof... then so should vince carter and mitch richmond without question.

    Think about it. They all made multiple all star games, they're all career underachievers, they're all olympic gold medalist.


    Agree or disagree?
     
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    If you're white, you get a little boost, which is the way it should be.

    :)
     
  3. ToyCen428

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    no because Chris Mullin looked old even as a youngster.
     
  4. dharocks

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    Chris Mullin was a career under achiever? A slow white dude who couldn't jump that was an elite SG and played on the dream team?
     
  5. meshflesh

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    Yea, he is an underachiever compared to other members of the hof. Hes a great player no doubt. But vince carter and richmond had similar careers to mullin, but they are often overlooked when it comes to hof consideration,
     
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    So what should Mullin have achieved with his body type? He was a good ballhandler, passer, and a deadly shooter. He didn't have great lateral quickness on D, but was dangerous in the passing lanes. He was a solid rebounder. He wasn't going to magically gain a 40-inch vertical or explosive first step. He made the most of his limited physical talent, that's the exact opposite of an underachiever.
     
  7. meshflesh

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    Chris mullin is very HOF worthy. No question about it.

    But in terms of winning championships and getting far in playoffs.... he is an underachiever. point blank.

    No matter if he has "heart of a lion", "work ethic", etc etc. still underachiever.
     
  8. dharocks

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    I guess your argument works if you change the definition of 'underachiever' to fit your argument. I can do that too though.

    It is my argument that Vince Carter and Mitch Richmond are less deserving than Mullin to make the hall of fame because both of those guys are refrigerators*. Refrigerators don't belong in the basketball hall of fame, come on guys!


    *As I define the word
     
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    What on earth are you going on about? You guys disagree about what amount of team success constitutes "under achievement" so you decide it has to be the phrase 'under achievement's fault? Hmm. Ok.
     
  10. dharocks

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    That's the dictionary definition of 'underachiever'. In what alternate universe does that apply to Chris Mullin? HE WAS A SLOW WHITE DUDE WHO COULDN'T JUMP. He became an elite shooting guard in the NBA who averaged 25+ PPG on >50% shooting for five straight years. Who on earth would expect more than that from a slow white dude who couldn't jump??
     
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    Exactly, when i see highlight films from the dream team, I think "man, that 45 year old man is holding his own out there"
     
  12. meshflesh

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    So going by your logic, mitch richmond and vince carter "overachieved" because they were black and more athletic??
     
  13. dharocks

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    How is that following my logic?

    Carter is generally regarded as an underachiever because he was an athletic freak who didn't make the most of his gifts. Which is the exact opposite of how I described Chris Mullin, which is why he's, if anything, an overachiever.

    Am I being trolled?
     
  14. thething

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    Stop arguing. dharocks is right.
     
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    Basic career stats are similar. However, Mullin is the only one of the three to make All-NBA 1st Team. There were 5 seasons he played in every game and two seasons he led the NBA in minutes played. He was an ironman. He led the NBA in true shooting percentage, effective field goal percentage, and free throw percentage. The other two haven't led the NBA in any skill category (each one played all games in the strike-shortened season and in one other season played in all 82 games). Mullin also had 5 straight years averaging more than 25 ppg while Richmond had 1 year and Carter has had 3. Mullin also had three years of greater than 5 assists while Richmond and Carter had one each. The highest number for average steals between Richmond and Carter is one year by Carter at 1.6 spg which is Mullin's career average. Mullin had 5 consecutive years where he went over 5 rpg. Richmond did it once and Carter has done it 9 times, but never for 5 consecutive years.

    (Looking at career stats, Mullin's last two years killed his numbers as he averaged about 5.5 ppg and 1.9 rpg.)

    So, looking at it objectively, a strong argument can be made that Mullin was the better and more accomplished basketball player.
     
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  16. meshflesh

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    not arguing. just debating.
     
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    On a side note, with Mullin in the HoF that means that every single member of the 1992 dream team except Christian Laettner (lol) is in the HoF.

    We wonder why we dont dominate international basketball like we did in the 90s but when your dream team is literally all hall of famers, that explains quite a bit.
     
  18. rimrocker

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    Laettner is in the College Basketball Hall of Fame so technically, they are all in A hall of fame.
     
  19. ClutchCityReturns

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    Debating is arguing...
     
  20. meshflesh

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    i dunno, i think arguments are more personal with tempers flaring etc etc
     

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