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PHOTOS: Libyans Applaud President Obama And International Allies With Large Thank You

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ILoveTheRockets, Aug 22, 2011.

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  1. wtfamonkey

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    I meant he is setting a precedent by bypassing congress by going to the UN. Obamas foreign policy is as bad as Bush's but Bush actually went to congress for permission.
     
  2. SamFisher

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    Actually Lebanon, France and Britain went to the UN for the no Fly zone- this is of course, 2 weeks after the Senate unanimously voted to request a no-fly zone for Libya. Which was then handled under NATO's authority.

    Other than that though, this version of history is totally correct! :)
     
  3. wtfamonkey

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    The no fly zone was added in secret to the resolution. The original resolution never had anything regarding to no fly zones.

    I rather find it funny that many people support this war. Lybia posses absolutely no threat to us, yet people go and just it because there are human rights violations? I find it laughable.
     
  4. justtxyank

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    Who cares. I for one think Obama handled this fine and I have no problem with the commander in chief making WAR decisions without pandering to the politics of Congress.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    lol, except for this part:


    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/2chambers/2011/03/senate_passes_libya_resolution.html'

    then why do you care if Britain/France lead an intervention there if you don't care either way? Or are you a 9-11 truther type and I'm barking up the wrong tree here...
     
  6. Deckard

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    Then HA HA HA!!

    Seriously, what's your beef? Just for the record, I was against American intervention, saying when this first came up that while Libya's soon to be former Fearless Leader was a terrorist and guilty of killing his own people, it was our allies' turn to do this sort of thing. To my delight, Obama handled it just right, at least up until now, and our allies have done a lot of heavy lifting. This has had one other benefit, at least from where I sit. It has exposed just how foolish the massive cuts to the British defense budget are. While I am in favor of cutting our own massive military procurement budget, Britain, under Cameron, is well on its way to making itself militarily irrelevant. This entire affair has shown how stupid 10 Downing Street has been recently.
     
  7. wtfamonkey

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    there you go again putting words in my mouth. 9/11 truther type? lmao, so everyone that does not agree with going to war is a 9/11 truther? such blindness. We are spending close to a billion dollars on this war with a budget crisis on our hands yet people still applaud these kinds of wasteful spending. Britain and France can do whatever they want. I just dont want the US government unilaterally starting wars that have we have no interest in. Sure Gaddafi has violated human rights. But so does the Saudis, Pakistanis and everyone of countries in the Middle east. This kind of foreign policy is bankrupting our country and you people blindly agreeing should be ashamed of yourself
     
  8. SamFisher

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    do you even know what "unilaterally" means? Signs point to no...

    Considering that your theory of the senate resolution requires either time travel or a massive coverup it was a safe bet on my part.
     
  9. wtfamonkey

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    http://blog.heritage.org/2011/04/05...ing-no-fly-zone-in-libya-changed-in-secret-2/

     
  10. SamFisher

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    " we didn't read the fine print" when voting for the final version of the bill is the excuse?


    My friend, I'm sorry but that excuse is a little beaten-up and shows severe damage due to trauma...

    because it just fell off the back of the WAAAHMBULANCE.

    If Republican senators don't bother to read bills before voting for them, that's their problem
     
  11. wtfamonkey

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    blah blah blah. you war mongerers make me sick.

    2003 iraq = unilaterally started. against UN resolutions
    2002 afghanistan = unilaterlly started.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    One of these things is not like the other - it rhymes with Plato.
     
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    To follow up on Sam's posts. We also have to consider that the US has signed and ratified both the treaties creating the UN and NATO. Resolutions by the UNSC have the force of the international law and as part of NATO we are obliged, in fact we generally make it a point to lead, actions by NATO.
     
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    Bombing Libya for a few months and creating a government that could possibly be even friendlier to the United States are not the sorts of action that are bankrupting the country - it is going in and fighting a real war for years upon years that's the problem. There is a distinction to be made.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    Those predator drones over Libya could have been better used at home to create jobs by killing people who have jobs.
     
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    What? You complained that we didn't get Congressional authorization but instead got the UN to sign off. In the case of Iraq we did the opposite. The UN said no and Congress signed off on it. So which way is it?

    You're right NATO had absolutely nothing to do with this. Also again the UN didn't even vote on NATO. And like Iraq Congress signed off on this.

    You're conflating war mongering and legality and they're nowhere close to the same. Not to mention initially you claimed Obama was setting some horrible precedent except that same precedent had already been established 30 years ago. But hey keep mentioning random things, one of them is bound to be correct.
     
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    As a sidenote, Germany really embarrassed itself in this whole process.
     
  20. Air Langhi

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    Iraq only took a month to take down. The got help from 70000 kurdish troops there as well. Now we get to see what happens after. Everyone was united against gadafi, but w/o gadafi what will be the goal of their people. Their own tribes or the country.
     

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