Israel's rights groups condemn 'Jews only' businesses

I'm not talking about whether it is a good idea to allow it or not, I'm talking about whether it is a good idea in practice/application. Which it obviously isn't. Just like hiring people based on their favorite color, or some other such nonsense, would be a bad idea.

 

You discriminate in your private life all the time.

 

Yes, I discriminate against Coke in favor of Pepsi. I discriminate against people who can't mow a lawn correctly in favor of people who do.

I don't, however, discriminate against all non-jews in favor of jews.

Do you?

 

I discriminate happily in favor of people who share my values vs. those who do not, yes.

 

And the question remains unanswered, predictably.

 

How can you not derive an answer from that? Do you really need help?

If you want to discriminate based on religion for something where religion really doesn't matter, go right ahead.

That's your own dumb call to make.

I'm not going to tell you how to run your business. But I can certainly point out how poorly you're running it.

Allowing people the right to discriminate as they please does not make you "pro discrimination" anymore than being pro-choice makes you "pro abortion", or better yet "pro abortion abuse".

 

Yep.

DD

 

On a freedom scale from 0 to 100, where do you rank Israel, USA, Pakistan, Germany, UAE, Saudi-Arabia?

 

What is this hippy garbage I'm reading?

Allowing people the right to discriminate only breeds more discrimination. You honestly can't see that?

The biggest reason discrimination is "bad business practice" is because in some countries, you know, like the US, there are enough people to stand up against it. Which sadly isn't the case in Israel

 

Even if this were true (which it isn't), it isn't a justification to "ban" private discrimination.

 

How do you think things would be different in the US without the anti-discrimination laws that were put in place in the 60s? I take it you believe that such laws actually restrict civil rights rather than promote them, or am I completely misunderstanding?

 

Agreed, and would be an excellent topic for a new thread.

 

He did answer your question.

 

When you have state sponsored discrimination, it makes a little more sense to enact state sponsored anti-discrimination as a countermeasure.

As opposed to this situation.

 

The state of Israel doesn't sponsor pro-Jew / anti-Arab discrimination?

 

A fair point, but its not an apples to apples comparison of blacks in slavery addled America. Even then, it's not like anti-discrimination (or benefits) has to apply to the private sector, it can be purely public. Either way, its a very unelegant solution that creates more problems than it solves. It wasn't for us, and it wouldn't be for them either.

 

Private ownership conceived solely as the ability to exclude is nothing more than "might makes right". If you meant the "right to exclude" (rather than "ability"), I think you're glossing over many essential questions. Who determines ownership of a given property? What are the limits of an object of property?

All private businesses are limited in their "ability to exclude" in some way, right? Can you think of a counter-example? If not, you have more work to do in order to show why businesses specifically have the right to exclude certain ethnic groups from their payrolls.

 

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I don't blame Palestinians for wanting their own state with this kind of stuff. It essentially is a race war going on over there.