Do you want Mcgrady back on the team for the vet min?

No doubt. And it's the off-season so people can talk about whatever they'd like... but it almost physically hurts to even read things that have been said so many times.

 

So true. I think may have to have a drink just from seeing this thread go on and on and on and...

 

I don't even know how Tinman even existed before Tmac came to Houston.

Any "fanbois" or "TOFs" would of left the bbs long ago. Turns out there are just some Rocket fans who appreciate his contributions to the team moreso than hate him for his falling out.

 

Don't go being all rational on us.

 

No Rockets fans give a damn about an individual statistics about an ORLANDO MAGIC PLAYER.

Ever.

Like in 10 years, 100 years, 1000 years, 100000 years.

No Rockets fans in the entire universe will give a damn about Orlando 2002 PER hero.

 

I came here for the same reason Clutch started the board.

The Rockets.

The TOFs are like the Planet of the Apes, except the Apes on Planet of the Apes are smart.

What basically happened was Dr Zaus caged a bunch of TOFs and told them that their idol was better than Kobe and that the Orlando Magic stats belong in the GARM.

He withheld the truth that their idol was false and that there were better nba players in any and every decade of the Earth when Humans ruled.

 

You finally figured out the TOFs!

They make up situations, cause their hero NEVER WON ANYTHING.

The problem is they are making up the situations with the wrong results, Tmac never won on any team, Toronto, Orlando, Houston, New York, the Pistons,

so why if you put him in on any winning team they would win?

For example, You replace Luke Skywalker with Tracy McGrady and that torpedo clanks off the Death Star, the Empire wins, Rebels get crushed in the first episode.

 

So you post in response to someone talking about Tracy being a top 50 player in his prime, to which they respond with his PER stats in his prime, and now you counter that no Rockets fan should care about an Orlando Magic player?

Seriously. You are the embodiment of circuitous "arguments," never directly responding to a point but instead going off on some irrelevant rant about "tru3 r0ck3t f4nz" sparkled with asinine pop culture references from the 80's.

This is just a few posts before you talked about how r3al R0ck3ts f4nz shouldn't care about players from other teams. Guess you aren't a r3al r0ck3t f4n, tinman. Ouch.

 

Jerry Stackhouse was a top 50 player in his prime...
Terrell Brandon was a top 50 player in his prime...
Gilbert Arenas was a top 50 player in his prime...
Stephon Marbury was a top 50 player in his prime...
Steve Francis was a top 50 player in his prime...
Tracy McGrady was a top 50 player in his prime...

 

you and the TOF lemmings can't read.

There is an OFFICIAL 50 greatest players of all time by the NBA and Tmac is not on it.

I did mention this guy named HAKEEM, Tmac fans don't know him. I mentioned him as an ICON with the Rockets, those other guys Bird, Magic, etc were icons of their own teams.

Because I mention Dream with the greatest players of all time does mean that I'm a Rockets fan.

mentioning Tracy McGrady with the likes of Michael Jordan makes one another type of fan.. a delusional one.

 

Interesting stats.

 

The PER stat for Tracy in his prime is 1.

PER= Playoff Exit Round

 

For individuals that bleed Rocket red, my facts are right on the money. Tracy McGrady took a **** on the legacy of the Houston Rockets, a legacy that has been built and upheld by true champions, be it Moses Malone, Hakeem Olajuwon, Calvin Murphy or Rudy T. Be it Scott Padgett, Cuttino Mobley, Shane Battier or Chuck Hayes. Old and new, Houston basketball has a legacy, built by character and long hours of hard work.

http://www.clutchfans.net/news/1545/the_day_t-mac_lost_houston/

Beautifully put, Clutch.

If you believe Tracy McGrady should be a Houston Rocket again, I say you are a fraud, with no scope of what it means to put on that red jersey.

 

Actually I'll be really honest most of what I've learnt about Hakeem is from this website in fact I wouldn't even know who mad max was if it wasn't for the multitude of websites mentions here on him. Fact of the matter is I've seen more of Shaq, Penny, t-Mac, VC, mourning, j Kidd, iverson, Kobe and Reggie then any of the players you talk about. They actually mean something to me because I've watched so many clips on them and it's free! Here in Australia the only player we ever really heard of was Magic/Bird/Jordan and Jordan was nearly x 10. I can tell you know that Hakeem will never mean much to me but I still fail to understand why he is so important to me being a fan of the rockets. Or the fact that being a fan of t-macs is not a fan of the rockets. I actually classify what Lebron did as taking a pile of s*** on the city of Houston not what t-macs done. I want him back, at the right price (read minimum)

 

what you see from the nba is marketing. Also the timing of when you watch was different, that's fine.
I'm not going through the entire time line of what t-mac did. Lebron's move to have a tv special was not good, however, he did honor his entire contract and his choice to move after free agency was fine.

you don't have to have vision of hakeem winning championships in your head. you just need to recognize that he was VASTLY superior and VASTLY more important to the city of Houston and the Rockets than T-mac was.

Do you need a brief history lesson?

Dream came to Houston as university student who didn't know how to play basketball.. he led team t

o the NCAA finals.

Dream played 17+ years for the Rockets and led them to 3 NBA finals and 2 championships.

The guy who created this board, Clutch, named his handle after the championship teams, which were named CLUTCH CITY because they were the first major sports team to win anything for the city of Houston.

There's a statue of him (his jersey) in the arena. He's in the hall of fame,
his jersey is hanging in the rafters.

Dwight Howard and Kobe came to Houston to train with this guy.

There's alot of tradition in Houston and I'm sorry the media had you believe it started with T-mac. Look who gets the most clips. There's some of us who feel connection to the Houston part of Houston Rockets too.

the song they play is called "Dream On"

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You're right they are.

Both are fiction, completely made up.

 

That was the "It feels so good to be out of the first round" year if I'm not mistaken...why don't you tell me what everyone else on the list BESIDES Tmac has in common?
I hope Tmac fans don't fall back on the "well he didn't have help" excuse...they beat the Pistons 3-1...but suddenly when they lose the next 3 in a row by an AVERAGE OF 20 POINTS (Yikes!), he doesn't have help? Meh. You look at his numbers the last 4 games of that series compared to his first 3 and you'll see why they couldn't win. What good is playing at a high level when you can't do it when it matters? Mentally weak...

 

Lol...

It's still a special season when your PER is over 30, only a limited few have done that.

He did it consistently the entire year, and was a complete monster.

Again, he lost in the playoffs (Dude has been so unlucky as that was the year they changed it from a 5 game series to a 7 game series format), and still, he averaged 32 PPG, 7 REB, 5 AST on 45% shooting. I dont care what you say, if you can't win a series with those numbers, you can't just blame the player for not advancing past the first round, it takes a TEAM.

Ask Grant Hill who finally got past the first round a few years ago.

I'm done defending him because I don't really care anymore, the chapter has ended, he is gone for good from the Rockets and is looking to sign with the Heat or the Bulls.

 

He's an idiot for doing that.

He was clearly injured and didn't like how he was moving but no way, I am not defending him, that was a disgrace!

You can make an article on him playing through the knee injury in the 2007-2008 season, through the win streak, playing through shots, draining his knee, etc.

He could have shut it down for the season mid way, gave himself more time to rehab, and could have potentially avoided knee surgery, and he would still be a Rocket today.

His worst mistake: Playing through the knee injury all season long when Yao announced he was out for the season, McGrady should have done the same.

 

that wasn't with the Rockets.

And I've told you his true PER is 1.