Then he shouldn't have demanded the rennovations just 6 years prior. The city was always willing to build a new stadium... just not for him (this is per all NFL owners, and high-up NFL officials). The fact that we got rid of him, AND were still able to get a new team/state of the art stadium (better than anything that could have been built in 1995) is a win-win.... and well worth the extra price of the franchise/stadium.
true--though they also "stole" a team from another city and would have little footing to stand on if they started complaining. Everyone would just call them hypocrites to complain while Cleveland was mired with no team because of them (though I realize the city of Baltimore didn't initiate that "steal" or anything)
Yes, but even after all that, do they still have fans that say "this team has no real tradition.... the name Ravens is silly... give me back my Colts and the history of Unitas, Shula, Yepremian." My guess is they still have some older people there who root for the Colts... but not with the same idiocy that people here root for the Titans. The better example is whether or not Clevelanders would ever consider rooting for the Ravens... at a time where they still have Ozzie Newsome as the GM and Ray Lewis as an all-time-great HOFer, and won a Super Bowl with many of the same players that were playing for Cleveland. Of course they wouldn't... even if they weren't still the Cleveland Browns. And techinically, we stole this team from LA.
how could it have been stolen it they never actually had it? Houston was awarded the team because it offered what LA couldnt.
Yea, but if we weren't around, the NFL would have given them even more chances to get their act together. We were initially used as leverage, then we were just too much of a sure thing while LA was in dissaray. We swooped right in and took that team away from them... good thing we did because we would never have had another shot at one.
Nevermind, Mason got drafted by the Tennessee Oilers. The last active person on an NFL roster to wear a Houston Oilers uniform was All-Pro tackle Jon Runyan, who retired in 2009 to become a U.S. Representative.
but you can't steal something that was never technically owned. It's like buying a house after someone couldnt get approved for the loan. You didn't steal it...they couldnt afford it.
yeah that's what they said about greenspoint mall. I guess it makes sense houston is a tear down no tradition no zoning footloose kinda place. nomads consuming through neighborhoods only to be spit out on the side becoming inner wastelands like the richmond strip..I get it.. midtown one week , washington street the next... big f-ing yawn... I've been there done that.. no thank you. call me a traditionalist. an old schooler wanting something pure like my old team name for my traditional city. Perhaps in a few years we can get another expansion team in here,and have 2 NFL teams, Then we can have one of them be the gallery furniture team and another one that represents that scrap metal place. Let's just blow our wad on any semblance of tradition ,and continue to be the pioneers in what matress mack affectionately refers to as TODAY.. so I guess I'll peel off that yesterday, throw down another strip mall,and concrete on it ,and call it the texans mentality... folks this is real
Keep crying about it. It's the sack of **** owner who took the team from the city in the first place who was unwilling to part ways with it.
right? i can't believe we're even having this discussion. that was adams' call to take the name. modell didn't. no one to blame for that but him. it was his to take..and his to leave. he chose to take it.
Anybody from Houston who is a Bud Adams apologist is dead to me. This revisionist history from DD and IBTL in this thread is appalling. Miss the Oilers? Fine. Excusing Bud Adams and blaming the city? Complete and utter bullcrap. Houston is *still* paying for the Dome renovations that Adams just had to have.
thanks for your (tired, oft repeated) opinion not up to us. but if I had a vote: hell. no. I'm sorry, but *Houston* didn't trash *anything*. Adams took it with him. And you know what, he can hang Munchak, Matthews, and Moon from the rafters in freaking Nashville all he wants, but he *can't* take that history or those memories away from us here in H-town. Some of us look back fondly on those times and embrace what's here now; some of us just sit around embittered, posting pics of ugly cheerleaders with nasty 80s hair. ...really??<br /> <br /> <br />
so... I saw Bud Adams at Costco again... had nothing but bananas in his little scooter cart... again... he looked to be in much better health this time, FWIW.
Reliant stadium was a terrible deal for the city. Bob told the city to bend over and city gladly did. People love football, but the economics of reliant are not a good deal for the city.
Then the Astrodome rennovations, which involved actually taxing Houston citizens, vs the hotel/car rental tax for Reliant/Enron, must be an all-time worst stadium deal... and we are still paying for it. Reliant is a state-of the art stadium that has hosted a Super Bowl, final four (with multiples to follow), has set attendance records for the rodeo, and has sold out every Texans game. In the end, it's setup is better than anything the Bud-Dome could have provided (which would basically have been the Alamadome 2.0), and far better than what the Astrodome was doing for the city at the end of its run.
