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Rick Adelman to interview for T-Wolves coaching job

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by _RTM_, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. Shroopy2

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    To the previous question of the Wolves HYPOTHETICALLY WITH Adelman possibly having a better record than the Rockets
    Its an intriguing mix of potential. I'm not that down on Randolph like others are. Williams, Beasley and Randolph though might already be redundant. All I'm saying is give it TWO YEARS instead of ONE. A ONE year turnaround of 20+ wins even WITH Adelman might be a bit much.

    Lets say the Rockets regress and their own young players actually don't get better, while the T-Wolves players actually do get better. Lets say instead of 43 wins the Rockets only get 38 wins because they get figured out and thats their "REAL" total, and the T-Wolves were UNDER-performing with Rambis (probably, he's just not head coach material).

    They'd still need at LEAST a 20 game improvement. While not too uncommon in the NBA, its not really easy either. Last year the Wolves improved TWO games WITH Kevin Love already making a big jump into All-Star status. Love needs to give his team more DEFENSE. If Love can improve on his defense like he did on the other aspects of his game, THEN we're talking. Though I don't see Kevin Love becoming being Kevin Garnett good type on BOTH ENDS of the floor.

    The Clippers with Blake Griffin and an emergence of Deandre Jordan improved THREE games. Derrick Williams and Rubio need to be studly from DAY ONE. They're definitely going to get better, but i'm not sure if its PLAYOFFS better.
     
  2. redhotrox

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    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Rick_Adelman_doesnt_plan_to_coach_next_season_080111
     
  3. Stevierebel

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    Same thing he told the Rockets' front office.

    With 2 of his 6 kids getting married this offseason, he wanted to start focusing on life after basketball and coaching. He wasn't sure he wanted to go much longer through the grind of another season.

    But the FO looks like the bad guys for "replacing" him since his departure was very similar to Van Gundy's.
     
  4. Dreamin

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    He got the feeling he was going to get rejected so he pulled the trigger first to try and save face. He tried to make it look like he went out on his own terms rather then the terms dictating his exit.

    Its all stupid though. Why did he agree to interview in the 1st place if he wanted to concentrate on "life after basketball"? I bet you he wouldn't be thinking about life after basketball if Kahn guaranteed the job.

    You aint foolin no one Dick.
     
  5. kovacs242

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    You are one of the worst haters on this forum, just watching your activity (although I try to ignore your posts) makes me sick in the stomach. You make up a story and based on what you made up, you are calling out people much more accomplished than you are. That, my friend is petty and pathetic.
     
  6. Nook

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    Good to see Rick trolling other teams trying to get jobs for his kids...

    Keep fighting the fight Rick!
     
  7. cheke64

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    Obviously, rick talk struck a nerve but do the right thing and gather information to debunk him instead of calling him pathetic. Cowardly view to say 'but you iz not NBA coach'.

    "The gentleman gets up and yells, trying to intimidate people into believing he's right -- he is wrong!" he shouted. "The gentleman is wrong! The gentleman is providing cover for his colleagues rather than doing the right thing!"
     
  8. kovacs242

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    True story. We don't know what happened between RA and our own FO and we don't know the why's. All that we know is that Les and RA didn't get along at all (which was also true for JVG) but that is also just rumors and speculation. There are the rumors about Adelman not using Morey's evaluation's to a great extent which happen to be rumors.

    Then LA chose Brown over Adelman, but we don't know what Adelman told the LA FO. I guess that Adelman wanted to coach here but Morey and Les wanted to dictate some terms RA wouldn't accept (he is after all a top3 coach right now in the league and this team won't be a contender nowadays barring some miracles happen), like putting people on his staff. His next best alternative I guess is to sit out the lockout-struck season. If you check his history, he always rested for a year after having been fired. Maybe LA would've been a good choice but I doubt Adelman would like a market where he is going to be constantly scrutinized and pressured. As I see him, he really does hate that kind of stuff.

    On the T-Wolves issue: it was a pipedream for the fans there. They even wrote petitions to the FO and the whole community was giddy about the news. Kahn is a known fan of Adelman's offensive schemes which is understandable, because his offense is a joy to watch. I think he could really do something good with that roster and the whole situation would fit him (remember Sacramento has never been in the playoffs without Rick, Portland had his best years with Drexler and Adelman). I also think he thought so although the Minny FO is surely not a team you would want to work with (unlike Morey and co they are unprofessional, talk to the media too much, there is no privacy, etc.). As I've heard they would've been willing to pay 4m$/year to Adelman, for that sum I think anyone would bother to pick up the phone. If anyone can feel bad about Adelman not coaching the Wolves, it should be the Wolves community and Kahn (who will be fired I guess). I think their greatest chance to keep Love would've been the signing of Adelman.

    Now on the hating part. Adelman has the best record with the Rockets, he has the best record with the Kings and maybe the second best record with Portland. The only place where he failed was Golden State. He has handled some serious brain cases and heavy personalities, all the players who played for him like him even Metta World Pa'. He has one of the best career winning records ever, he is he coach of the legit 2002 NBA champions, he turned around a pathetic franchise (which immediately collapsed after he left). Oh and he has a better playoff record than Jerry Sloan.
    I guess he is a top10 coach all time, and he is in the top10 in games won.

    Oh and JVG respects him like hell. I've rarely heard anyone talk about anyone else with so much respect as JVG talked about Adelman. JVG is a classy guy but the way he spoke wasn't about being politically correct.
     
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  9. Dreamin

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    I loved JVG and YAO, TMAC too until he started whinging and pouting. I love me some Lowry, Hayes, Lee and Pat, love Scola and Martin too. No homo all the way. I love Les and Morey too.

    I just hate the "in Morey we trust fans", he is not GOD. And I only hate Brooks, Bud, Hill, and Miller. I didnt hate Brooks until he was playing crap and started whinging instead of fixing. I wouldnt hate Bud, Miller and Hill unless they sucked so much and if Aldeman didnt give them major roles. Infact - I only started hating Aldeman because he played those crappy guys so much. I had no problems with Aldeman when he was playing Artest, Landry or a in from Brooks.
     
  10. Angkor Wat

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    Rick will do Rubio like he did Drazen Petrovic, no playing time. :grin:
     
  11. apollo33

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    How is it RA's fault for playing Miller, who do you suggest we play at the center then, Retired Yao?, Hill then (but you also hate him), Or Thabeet maybe (but he's in the D-league). Would it make you happier if we left spot blank and start 4 players... or play Chuck Hayes for 48 minutes every game..

    What's your problem with Bud, yes he went into a slump in the middle of the season. But he got out of the slump when Battier was traded and finished the season strong..

    Your hate is completely illogical so you stop hating for no reason.
     
  12. Dreamin

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    Jeffries. He was changing shots every game he was on the court. JJ was not our answer but he was way better then Miller and he could have helped us win games. HATE = LOGICAL AND JUSTIFIED

    Bud sucked the whole year until Battier got traded. While he was sucking - Aldeman kept playing him none the less (same story for Hill, Miller and Brooks) - We kept losing games in between. Guess what? We were already like 5 games after the Battier trade and never recovered, TOO LATE. It doesnt matter now that he finished strong. We will save it for next season.

    We would not have been 3-4 games behind but maybe 2-3 games ahead if Aldeman played JJ, Ish, Pat earlier and more instead of Miller, Hill and Brooks. That much is irrefutable.
     
  13. kovacs242

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    Adelman has a conservative approach to rotation changes which actually works. How many coaches do you see that constantly tinker with their rotations and win on a consistent basis? NONE, that's right, NONE.

    Adelman is a dependable guy whose trust is hard to gain but also hard to lose. His style works just because everyone knows where their place is, how the team works and they can operate with knowing what will happen tomorrow. Adelman creates stability which, believe it or not, is extremely important. The pecking order is clear and that creates some stability in the dressing room as well. I guess that's the way he worked with the likes of Artest, Webber, etc.

    About Budinger. What would you have done? Bench him? Okay, and what good would stem from that on the long term? I guess Adelman perfectly knew what was happening with Bud and maybe weighed his options. Like removing him from the rotation would cause upheaval, Bud would lose confidence, Bud wouldn't learn how to handle a crappy form. Not a great way of teaching a sophomore player who is actually quite capable by benching him when his shooting motion is OK and his shots don't fall. Especially not when there are no work-rate issues with him.

    On Miller: he placed some trust in Miller who didn't deliver on a regular basis. His positive effect on Hill is undeniable and he paired them on the court. On Brooks: Brooks was last year's star player. If a hard shot had to be taken, it was Brooks who was going to take it. Although he wasn't that efficient, he ran Adelman's offense well and really complemented the starter's abilities. He was a good fit. This year he started to rush things (maybe a bit of overconfidence, I don't know) and became a crappy shooter because of self-confidence and injury issues. What should've Adelman done with him? Bench the **** out of him? Why exactly? Because of 10 bad games? Things just don't work like that. You have to gain Adelman's trust, remember? What should happen if Kyle put together a string of 10 bad games (may very well happen)? The coach should bench him?

    What sets apart good coaches from bad ones is that they see short term goals and long term goals. Abruptly changing the rotation is one of the worst things you could do to a team and knee jerk reactions are to be avoided. By over-adapting to situations, players may feel doubts about their roles and it may adversely affect their performance. And we're not even talking about mental issues which are extremely important (and key) at the level of competition we're talking about. What sets apart ABZ10/11 from ABZ09/10 is not that he cannot dribble anymore. We can agree on that I think.

    So yeah, in hindsight, Adelman should have tinkered with the rotations earlier but I doubt Pops or PJ would've done anything any differently than RA did. Kurt Rambis or Kuester? Sure they would've. That's why they suck.
     
  14. redhotrox

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    Wolves, Rick Adelman to Meet

    Adelman interviewing with the T-Wolves today after all. Smart decision for once for the Wolves to be so persistent about it.
     

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