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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Aug 1, 2011.

  1. BrooksBall

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    Brewers threatening late. Starting to pull away from the pack a little. The Pirates with L6 tonight. I'll feel for their fans a bit if the Pirates can't at least keep things interesting down the stretch. The fans deserve that much at least.
     
  2. BrooksBall

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    Make that L5 for the Pirates. Bad potential loss for the Brewers. Scored 0 w/ bases loaded, no outs.
     
  3. BrooksBall

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    Hey, that's better than CJ's motto: "See the ball or don't see the ball, just swing anyway." :)
     
  4. rockets934life

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    LOL...CJ's swing always seemed to me like it was in slow motion, Paredes' swing seem like a laser and has a nice arm too.
     
  5. BrooksBall

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    No doubt... CJ doesn't have very good bat speed. On the plus side, it stays in the zone longer and he has pretty good control. The problem was his eye... it just wasn't (or "hasn't yet been" if you wanna be optimistic) anywhere close to ML caliber. He couldn't adjust to certain pitches.
     
  6. BrooksBall

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    Pretty interesting game in MIL. MIL had a great chance to pretty much put the game away and take a 4.5 game lead in the division. They blew it, then the Cards had a very good chance to at least take the lead, couldn't do it either.
     
  7. BrooksBall

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    Why I Think Nyjer Morgan May Be On Drugs

    By BrooksBall

    -glossy eyes
    -dilated pupils
    -didn't know what inning it was after hitting walk-off
    -kamikazes into catchers on a regular basis
    -throws baseballs at fans
    -attempts superman punches on pitchers
    -is unphased by blindside clotheslines when attempting superman punches on pitchers
    -taunts entire stadium of fans after previous two acts
    -see any Nyjer Morgan interview

    I rest my case. :)
     
  8. BrooksBall

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    Both Bourn and Pence had good nights at the plate.
     
  9. rockets934life

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    WOW Molina just went insane...never seen that from him.
     
  10. BrooksBall

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    To add to the previous list, just learned that he may have at least some history of drug use.

    -got kicked out of hockey camp for smoking weed
    -something about taking a dump in a Gatorade bottle while likely on something

    Have no source so it could be totally invalid.

    I'm building my case. Heh. Don't really care... just amuses me.
     
  11. BrooksBall

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    I just caught the replay. Only saw the end of it initially.

    He's looking at some kind of suspension for sure, maybe multiple games. Bumped the ump and spit on him, even if unintentionally.

    Gotta be more to it for him to react like that. Something must've happened earlier between them, overt or otherwise... maybe even in a previous game.
     
  12. No Worries

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    I thought that I read somewhere on the Internet (so it must be true) that baseball teams need to be careful wrt over pitching their young pitchers (less than 25 years old?). Thus, teams set innings limits.

    Lyles pitched 158 innings last year in the minor. Eventually in his prime he will be pitching 200 innings or so. The Astros certainly would want Lyles to be pitching 200 innings the next time they are in a playoff run, which is not this year or next.

    Again I was guessing that Lyles would be pitching 150-160 innings this year or about what he pitched last year. From below, Brad Mills disagrees and wants to pitched him 160-170 innings. I do not see any value add by the additional innings over 150 innings.

    I would hate to see Lyles get hurt or shorten his career, by pitching into September this year.


    Jordan Lyles Is Officially On An Innings Limit

    I bring all that up simply because Houston seems to be doing the right thing by both Lyles and paying attention to the Verducci Effect. Lyles threw 158 innings last season in between two levels of the minor leagues. If he is cut off around 165-170 innings this season, that means his increase won't be that huge and hopefully save him for the future.

    Astros will limit rookie Jordan Lyles to 165-170 total innings.

    Brad Mills told Brian McTaggart of MLB.com that Lyles likely won’t be allowed to throw more than 165-170 total innings this season between the minors and majors, as the Astros want to avoid a workload increase of more than 15-20 innings compared to last season.
     
  13. Niaperzly

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    A pitcher should stretch out their innings total incrementally until they reach near what they'll throw in a full season. Do you want Lyles throwing 150 innings 2-3 years in a row to try and keep him from injury only to have him throw 220 innings the next season in a playoff race?
     
  14. juicystream

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    He is the craziest baseball player I have ever seen. There is certainly something wrong with him. He has been a great addition for the Brewers though.
     
  15. rpr52121

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    Lots of recent talk and such about about both inning and pitch count limits being bunk due to the way Nolan Ryan has attempted to change the Rangers' philosophy:

    Nolan Ryan, What Hath Your Texas Rangers Wrought Upon MLB?

    Three-part series called "The Problem with Pitch Counts"

    Baseball too concerned with pitch count limits comparing MLB and Japanese pitchers

    Why Pitch Counts Don't Work

    By the Numbers: Verducci Effect examined. Do innings limits make as much sense as people think?

    The Year After Effect/
     
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    I don't know if the Mariners GM is a genius or the Tigers were just really desperate but the package going to Seattle is fantastic for Doug Fister and a reliever. Fister is a 4th starter at best but got two of the better prospects in the Tigers system. Wade screwed up so badly giving Wandy that 4th year option, I wonder what a team would have given up for Wandy not under his horrible contract? I just hope we can get a slightly lesser package at this point or simply hang on to him.
     
  17. juicystream

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    I just took a look at our RBI leaders.

    1) Carlos Lee
    2) Chris Johnson
    3) Brett Wallace

    :eek:

    BA:

    1) Brett Wallace
    2) Carlos Lee
    3) Chris Johnson

    Runs:

    1) Lee
    2) Wallace
     
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  20. jim1961

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    I get what your saying here.

    But Wallace's BA has dropped 40 pts since mid June.
    Lee is over payed for his numbers.
    Johnson's defense....well enough said.
     

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