well, glad to hear it was something else other than Bud allowing the entire team to reach base 10 times. hopefully nothing serious.
Kipnis with his 2nd jack in as many games. The Indians better save some of these runs... they barely score any on most nights. As Astro fans, we finally get to start looking forward to young talent coming up over the next few years. The "new era" is on the horizon.
Yeah, it was in jest . Seemingly the entire reds team have been on the base paths a lot. Rough day for Bud, including walks essentially gave up 13 hits in 5 innings.
lol... not even close, bro. I put together a long post on it... I'll dig it up. The Indians have one of the deepest farms in baseball. Gave up their 2 best pitching prospects and 2 good but replaceable additional players but they didn't come anywhere in the realm of depleting their system. The only reason they didn't have a consensus top 5 farm system was the relative lack of sure things. Almost nobody touches them in depth, particularly pitching depth, which is why this trade made a lot more sense than you would think based on some shallow observations made by "experts."
Be careful what you read, r934. Lots of hacks out there. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=6250579&postcount=517 If the Indians aren't contending this time next year, they'll be able to "easily" reflip Jimenez for at least 75% of what they gave up... maybe more depending on how he performs and what the market is like. Jimenez is under club control through 2013 on an extremely club-friendly contract. Even if he performs up and down like he did this season, there will be plenty of interest. It was a calculated risk and despite giving up a lot, the Indians could absorb it without hurting their future, maybe at all if they reflip Jimenez for a good price.
09:$0.75M, 10:$1.25M, 11:$2.8M, 12:$4.2M, 13:$5.75M club option ($1M buyout), 14:$8M club option ($1M buyout) That is why he's getting paid under this contract. Ridiculous, even if he's a #2 and wildly inconsistent. The Indians got the top pitcher on the market without giving up Chisenhall or Kipnis. They couldn't afford to part with position players as much as pitchers. Pomeranz and White are both elite prospects, esp. Pomeranz, but that is one of the many values of having a healthy farm system - you can make deals in areas of depth and not skip a beat, esp. with a contract like Jimenez' that can easily be reflipped. It isn't even beyond question that the Indians end up getting more in return if Jimenez finds his form in the AL. Worst-case, they make up for a significant portion of the losses, probably in the form of both pitching and position player prospects, which would fill more need for them.
Your the expert on the Tribe, a couple of the minor league guys I follow were pretty down on their system after the deals but at the same time were good with the deal because of the reasons you just provided. It is nice to have such a good system...brings back wonderful memories.
We'll be there again... and as of now, we don't have to play in the AL... and we have more money to spend, esp relative to the league we play in. And I'm far from an expert... I'm just an average fan who pays attention to the team which gives you an edge up on some of the hacks, who typically have just casual knowlege of most teams until they have to write about them (then they become "experts"). It's amazing how inaccurate some of the stuff you heard/read is coming from national sources.
Definitely crazy but not as much so an owner of a mid-market team trying to "win now" at all costs to the point that he completely disengrates an organization's pipeline of talent.
